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I absolutely detest fascism, but I also recognize that the US has always been fascist from the very start. Not only that, but the US is also the chief exporter of fascism having toppled 75 countries during the Cold War alone. It helps put things in perspective.
Your detesting of fascism doesn't stop violent fascists from killing or seizing power.
You have to actually know your enemy to fight it. Saying the US is turning fascist is nonsensical.
You seem to be stuck in a nasty state of cognitive dissonance.
"Saying the US is turning fascist is nonsensical." -- Are you sure you want to stand by this statement?
Absofuckinglutely.
Did you miss the part where the US was pro-Nazi in the 1930's (that is where America First slogan came from) and wealthy people in the US were instrumental in funding the Nazi party?
Did you miss the cold war where the US toppled over seventy democratic countries and installed fascist dictators?
Did you miss the genocide of the Native Americans which the Nazi modeled their extermination of the Jews after?
Did you miss how Nazi Germany came to all the countries to find a place to send the Jews but wealthy US representatives lobbied the entire world not to take them in?
Did you miss after the US/Mexico war the reason we didn't divide Mexico up into new states was because representatives at the time said it would poison our nations blood?
Did you miss the American Revolution where wealthy business owners engaged in terrorism and propaganda to incite a peaceful people against their country and then installed their military commander as the first President?
I mean I could go on all day. The US was fascist before we even had a definition for it. Are some policies right now making the US seem even more fascist? Sure, but we have always been.
Can I get a citation for this one?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
So many words when you could have just typed out that you're a fascist apologist who supports doing nothing because you've tried nothing and you're all out of ideas.
Hey, I get it. You are confused and your head is full of propaganda. I was once like you until I studied a lot of history and discovered my own truths.
If you think pointing out fascism for what it is advocating for it then I am kind of dumbfounded. I am not an apologist, I just see the problem for what it is and I have already deprogrammed myself from years of pro-US propaganda.
Your point of view is exactly what the fascists are employing and that is a bit disturbing. They are the ones who are saying pointing out racism is racist. Likewise, apparently you think pointing out fascism makes you fascist.
Why are you using their playbook?
Why are you suggesting that nobody do anything? Why are you saying I'm using a fascist playbook? Look, I know your head is full of propaganda and I can forgive that. You need to educate yourself. Open a book. Tell me what worked against fascism. Now tell me what do you propose, instead? You won't because you have nothing. You're a fascist apologist who is here to complain at the only people that are willing to do something.
I never said anything about people not doing anything.
I said you were using the fascist playbook and I gave an example of why I believe that.
There are tons of solutions to the problems we are facing. I am not here to lecture you about those however desperate you seem for me to be.
Those solutions are not, however, trying to arm minorities for a fucking race war that the fascists are desperate for. This is your problem, you see only one stupid solution that will just lead to more suffering and death. That personal protection somehow magically equates to social change.
The truth is you are the one without the answers wildly flailing about with no real understanding of the problem we face. If you listen and talk, instead of trying to accuse everyone of what you want to become, perhaps you could learn something.
Name one solution that you believe in. Not me or anyone else, you, specifically.