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They also should be able to say “yes, I’m 18” and just access this content. Right?
Are you saying that a child watching porn is equivalent actual child porn?
Cuz it sure sounds like that's what you're saying...
Nah. Just that it’s one aspect of porn and a 12 year olds potential viewpoint on it. If we’re discussing one fucked up fact (this study), I figured we could throw in another related fact.
Remember, we are talking about kids who see it as a future career. Not as a current option. It’s still fucked up. But I didn’t take the article to be saying kids see a career in making porn at their current ages.
I was talking about one way they may be informed on the subject. And that’s what this comment thread is about. Being informed. It started about economics.
My comment was a terribly formed way to try to make that point. In addition, it was me being snarky about people who don’t want anything better than “r u 18?” keeping kids off of porn sites. A recent hot topic. This study shows we may have even more reason to reconsider how we handle porn online.
AND YES, further solutions have a million downsides. That’s why they have been avoided up until now. I’m not saying the way things are going is great (recent laws). I’m just saying that it’s fucked up we don’t have better solutions yet. It’s 2025. And studies like this are just beginning to concretely show the results of online porn.
I know everyone around Lemmy, and in nerd circles loves porn. It’s the invisible hand that picks technological winners and losers and all that.
It’s all a tangled mess. I have no real solutions. And I’m against banning pornography. I mostly find it a bit frustrating there is no nuance. And that after 25-30 years or whatever, the discourse around it still thinks parents are the solution, even though they consistently, pervasively fail. There’s usually not even anything said about how we could make the parent problem better. All we hear is “it’s not my fucking problem. It’s the parent’s problem!”
I mean, parents are the solution here. The problem, is our society, has made that an impossible task by keeping the working class exhausted, and unable to think beyond the next 24 hours.
So let’s fix all of the rest of society, instead of changing how we distribute porn online.
I don’t disagree with you. But I do find that line of discourse to be a dead end, solutions wise.
I mean, yes. Let's stop atomizing humans, so we can start to stand and support each other; rather than locking down access, in a way that has a serious detrimental effect on everyone else, and STILL doesn't solve the problem; and removes an income stream from a load of people.
I mean shit, it takes like what? 10 minutes to download Tor, and start browsing the dark web, where pron of every variety exists, even things highly illegal like live stream of child rape? Yeah, that's loads better than a teen stumbling onto Porn Hub, amirite?
Shit, even before the internet, kids had lots of access to pron. I remember the magazines being passed around in 7th grade. You know what halted the magazine circulation? Parents being parents, and finding them, and then taking them to add to their own stash. You know what didn't help a bit? Checking IDs at time of purchase, because kids weren't buying them at the store anyways.
It's the same discussion as gun violence in the US. We can try to regulate firearms as much as we like, and it's STILL not going to put a dent on a problem caused not by unregulated shit, but by the fact that humans are so desperate for things like housing, healthcare, and fighting poverty, it makes more sense to do a drive by then to try to do the "right thing".
Same with the War on Drugs. The drugs aren't the problem. The shitty society pushing people to become addicts, and then to treat addicts like criminals is the problem.
I don’t dispute anything you are saying. I think it can coexist with finding the way we handle things strange.
We should support sex workers and not disparage their profession. It’s real work, right? Then maybe we need to accept that our culture is increasingly showing young people it’s a viable profession. Right? My point in bringing up access to porn, was to point out some uncomfortable inconsistencies in how we are treating/thinking about sex workers. Our relationship with porn and sex work has been evolving over the past 30 years. This article is a result. And, as I said before, it’s a big messy thing. It’s inconsistent. And it’s strange how it’s inconsistent.
If we categorically say that sex work is only a job of desperation, that it should be a last choice option, that seems disrespectful to sex workers.
Nothing about our online “discussion” here is well structured. It has all the cliched problems. And I’m not great at it.
My initial post was nonsense, relative to my full feelings on the subject. It was like a clickbait headline.
Yep