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I feel like half of the blame capitalism gets is valid, but the other half is just society. I don't care what kind of system you're under, you're going to have to deal with other people.
Oh, and if you try the system where you don't have to deal with people, that just means other people end up handling you.
In this case it is purely fault of the money incentive though. Noone would spend so much effort and computation power on AI if they didn't think it could make them money.
The funniest part is though that it's only theoretical anyway, everyone is only losing on it and they're most likely never gonna make it back.
It matters a lot though what kind of goal the system incentivises. Imagine if it was people's happiness and freedom instead of quarterly profits.
That’s the part people never really seem to understand. It makes sense though because we’re subjected to the system from birth and it’s all a lot of people know so they can’t grasp the idea of a world outside of that so it can sometimes be difficult to get through to people on that
It's definitely valid to disagree about point #3, but then you need to give a better model for #1 and #2
I would give this reddit gold
Instant easy complaints help-i'm-oppressed-by-Capitalism today sound an awful lot like the instant easy complaints help-i'm-oppressed-by-Communism I used to hear from rednecks
Ask someone who starved & died under either system how obviously superior it is, you will find millions on either side
Also consider that Socialism is totally legal under Capitalism. Want to start a co-op? Go for it. Want to legislate and implement socialized healthcare? Many Capitalist countries have.
Under Communism, Capitalism must be illegal and stamped out by force. Want to start a business making shoes and hire someone to work for an agreed upon wage? Illegal.
When the goal involves guaranteeing positive rights, I'm not sure how it can be achieved without coercion. Which is how any socialist policies get implemented under capitalism anyways.
ofc a lot depends on the precise definitions of terms, state corporatism is not synonymous with generally free markets operating under the regulation of a basically diverse inclusive democracy -- but both are referred to as "capitalism"
What if i'm being repressed instead?
Could you clarify on what you mean with “dealing with people”? I’m not really sure the point you’re trying to make with that
The complaint that got blamed on capitalism was:
and if there's one entity/person most responsible for that, it's Putin or the GOP. Most of it is political, and very little to do with capitalism itself. Except that capitalism surrounds and is intertwined with everything.
Still, if you get rid of capitalism, it doesn't get rid of politics. I'd argue that the root of the issue is the GOP trying to hoard power (money and otherwise), and power is going to exist with or without capitalism. Is North Korea capitalist? Do they have issues with disinfo?
This Christian Sharia Law movement doesn't exist for money.
The neat part is that anything bad that happens under capitalism is capitalism's fault, but anything good that happens is actually socialism happening in spite of capitalism, somehow.
Could you give some examples?
Socialized healthcare
And in what way does capitalism socialize healthcare in the United States?
Socialized healthcare exists there -- at least until the current administration finishes ripping it away
The US uses a welfare state, that isn’t socialism and no one is praising it
Socialized healthcare isn't socialism...
Interesting.
How about Canada?
The US does not have socialized healthcare. It uses a welfare state. What about Canada?
Does Canada have socialized healthcare?
Does anywhere?
Yeah they do! A few places do. I’m just enjoying seeing you prove your own sarcasm as actual truth because these things formed in spite of capitalism
Is Canada not capitalist?
Are you willingly ignoring my point or just not getting it? Oh well
Sounds like you just realized you proved mine.
If you’re simping for capitalism then I guess I’m not surprised you’ll take whatever narrative and run with it.
Lol can't engage with someone's point? Just call them a simp.
Why did you even engage if you can't walk the walk, lil bro?
You: “capitalism is the reason we have everything! And when people get sick of capitalism’s greed and form social policies to help the labor class because they continually get exploited in spite of capitalism, somehow that’s capitalism’s fault!”
But then the irony is lost on you
Whoever you're shadowboxing there is taking a hell of a beating!
Mkay, Lucille
Thanks for exemplifying the "CaPiTaLiSm BaD" person from my original comment so well! The total inability to engage with my comment to the point of inventing a whole new one to argue with was a really nice touch!
All you did was exemplify the “capitalism is great” person that I was pointing out :)
Oh wow, "no u".
Devastating comeback.
If the shoe fits. It’s just too easy to play with you
Lol okay. Have fun LARPing, comrade.
Capitalism isn’t your friend and will never serve you 😘
If only you understood anything you were talking about. Oh well!
Yeah it sure is a shame lol