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TIL you shouldn't bring camouflage on a cruise.
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Orange camo still has the shape of the pattern, where the shape is the most important part and the orange isn't eye catching to deer like it is to humans. Deer do not avoid orange camo, which is why people know it works.
Sometimes hunters do wear reflective orange vests over camo, with the idea that the vest is small enough to not be as noticeable as a full body suit and worth not getting shot.
Deer do not avoid cars. Or people drinking in their backyards while kids scream and play with each other.
Again, if orange were some magic anti-deer color, you would just wear a solid orange bunny suit like you were about to go out into the desert and have some fun with Malcolm's Dad.
Also: Again, if any of this bullshit were necessary to "sneak up on the deer" then this continent would have been a giant graveyard as everyone starved because they just didn't have enough camo and dye. Or, I guess, giant metal boxes with bright lights and loud noise makers?
The reality is that deer are SUPER easy to kill (especially with a high powered rifle...). All of this "We have analyzed the eyes and psychology of deer and figured out a great excuse to stop shooting each other, err, I mean, to sneak up on the deer like, get your lotion ready, Carlos Hathcock!!! No, we don't care about Pegahmagabow."
Maybe I am just an old but I remember all the sitcoms where they would have a "hunting episode" and the goober of the group would be wearing all camo and get made fun of. Hell, I want to say there was an episode of Frasier where they go to the cabin and Niles shows up after getting fleeced by a local shop and... he looked a lot like the modern day cosplayer-err, hunter. Not to mention having grown up in the kind of town where Real Men drive a few hours away during deer season to prove they are Men by killing a few deer and talking about how difficult it was.
They often freeze when blinded by headlights, but they sure as shit avoid cars the vast majority of the time.
Yes, they do avoid noisy people.
You sound like someone who has never interacted with deer in the wild, which is actually pretty difficult since they actively avoid people. You also have to hit a fairly small area on the deer to kill it, and hitting that is actually not easy at longer ranges.
I know both from interacting with deer and target shooting with deer hunters, although I chose not to actually participate in hunting.
It really depends a bit on where you are
I live in a suburban area with a ton of deer. Around here they're pretty damn used to people, cars, etc. not that they won't get spooked if you start walking towards them, but if you're being chill they'll hang around pretty damn close to you.
One time I was hunting, walking around through the woods near me with my bow, turned a corner around some tall brush and there were 3 does standing maybe about 15ft from me. I didn't have a doe tag so I just stood there and watched. They saw me, sized me up for a minute, then went back to doing deer stuff right in front of me. It was getting late and I was about ready to pack it in so I even talked to them a little, joking that they should go get their boyfriends for me, they didn't give a fuck.
I work nights, damn near every night on my lunch break, there's a handful of deer hanging around outside our lunch room, I eat outside when it's nice, the deer don't mind me being out there, chatting with my coworkers. Few weeks back I was out there while there were some fireworks going off nearby, the deer didn't mind that one bit either (though the dogs in the nearby neighborhood were not a fan, the deer were more concerned, though still not too bothered, about the barking than the explosions going off overhead)
My commute is along some fairly major roads. There's almost no traffic when I'm commuting, but there's always going to be at least a car or two driving by every few minutes. Those roads are practically lined with deer.
If I don't see at least a dozen deer on any given day while just going about my business it's kind of weird.
But when I go camping and hiking in more rural/wooded areas, the deer are a lot more skittish, and I rarely see them even though I know the woods have to be teeming with them, there's no shortage of droppings, rubs, shed antlers, etc. but the deer aren't hanging around if they catch a whiff of you.
Dude... just once, try actually going into The Forest without being strapped like you are storming Fallujah. Deer will gladly walk along trails and it is not at all uncommon to have to yell at your belayer to pay attention because they got distracted by Bambi walking around. Or spend some time in a town that borders a wooded area and you'll see plenty of deer just wandering around backyards or slowly walking through the streets.
Similarly, as a youth I was dragged along on a few hunting trips back in the day where you just dressed for the weather rather than figuring out what military you want to cosplay as. And it was NEVER hard to find a deer. That is WHY so many counties/regions have license requirements and point systems. Hell, a memory that is forever burned into my skull because of how fucked and hysterical it was is my ex's father gutting the deer he just shot while two others walk up to us and just chill.
Understand that the vast majority of modern day hunters are those two guys from (ugh) South Park and are constantly making up excuses and self aggrandizing themselves. They think they are going to war and are all super hardcore snipers and would wear ghillie suits if (pretend I know another tacticool brand than 5.11) sold them at the mall. And understand that much of the world has a long time dependency on hunting for survival. And I am pretty sure the cowboys who made bison all but extinct weren't all dying their clothes multiple shades of brown and painting their faces every time they were hungry.
Great job reading the comment you replied to instead of just continuing your uninformed rant.
Five stars!
Have you ever been around a(n actual live) deer before?
I have, and yes, they do come right up to you if they think you're going to feed 'em. I've encountered deer at the hardware store, which involves people driving monster trucks with trailers, forklifts loading and unloading wood, and so on, and the deer don't even care.
Bro what is the purpose of this confidently incorrect diatribe you've been on? It just seems like you have some sort of superiority complex and it is readily apparent that you are coming into this from a place of bare ignorance. No, deer cannot see blaze orange. Yes, it comes in multiple patterns of camo in addition to solid. People wear either, both, or none depending on what they're hunting and what the laws are locally. You're not going to call a turkey into shotgun range wearing that shit. I mean, anything is possible but it would be far more difficult.
Is it strictly necessary to wear camouflage to harvest an animal? No. But it will improve your chances profoundly. And the assertion that hunters didn't wear camouflage in the US until after GWOT is just so...bizarre. Mossy Oak has been around since the 80s; maybe you should blame all of this on the invasion of Grenada. Makes about as much sense. No one's dressing up like an operator and cosplaying convoy security in Kandahar to go hunt, man. They're putting their clothes on, going into the woods with equipment that does the job, and going home to make some fried backstrap and gravy or roast a turkey. Most of us do this shit to eat.
I get it, a lot of southerners are pieces of shit and their bloodlines should have been cut short long ago, and hunting is a culturally significant activity for that demographic, so it must be beneath you. But please don't just make shit up just for the hell of it. Or if you do, make it more fun to read. I'm not even sure what point you've been trying to make this whole time.