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Sorry, no, you can't both-sides this one. One side is actively supporting and cheering on all the horrors we've seen over the last 7 months, and the other is in the minority and powerless to stop it.
Is Gavin Newsom the minority leader in California? Is Eric Adams the minority mayor of New York? When Rep. Tricia Cotham switched parties in the North Carolina State Senate to guarantee Republicans a veto-proof majority against the governor, was she a member of the minority or the majority?
Liberals seem to want to forget the last twenty-five years of Democratic misrule. Every blue state government gets a pass for failing to implement any of the party's stated goals. Every majority party spends half their time in office trying to explain why you need 60 votes in the Senate to do anything (and even when Dems have 60 votes it isn't enough), why the Parliamentarian can prevent a majority Congress from delivering low-cost health care or above poverty wages or even a tiny bit of student debt relief.
Meanwhile, the Dem minority's powers of obstruction are virtually non-existent. McConnell held up Merrick Garland's conformation for over a year, while Schumer couldn't bottle up ACB for two months? Republicans can conduct massive gerrymanders of Texas three different times in the last twenty years. They can win the Wisconsin and North Carolina state senates with a meager 40% of the vote, thanks to the district draws. They have minority-majority governments in dozens of states thanks to disenfranchisement and voter caging. But Californians and New Yorkers and Massholes and Washingtonians just sit on their hands? Hell, back in 2012 Andrew Cuomo Helped the Republicans Keep Control of the State Senate
Dems couldn't deliver themselves two free US Senators and a fist-full of House Reps by making DC a state. Puerto Rico was also up for grabs, twice, only for them to fumble it. They couldn't mandate mail-in voting back in 2021 when those enormous mail-in ballot advantages handed Joe Biden a landslide win. They couldn't reform the judiciary when they were staring down a 6-3 permanent Republican court majority. They couldn't even prosecute an ex-President with 91 outstanding indictments against him. All they could do was sit back and hand him a second term.
Why do you insist on getting played like this, over and over again? You're backing a Controlled Opposition. A party more interested in legalizing Bitcoin as legal tender and funneling bunker buster bombs to genocidal ethnostates than keeping the lights on at local health clinics or doing dick-all to house our homeless population.
A party of unchecked white collar criminality and criminalized poverty. A party of the police and the bloated military state and of Silicon Valley corruption. A party of mass murder. But hey, they wear rainbow flag lapel pins during pride month (sometimes).
The other party is nazis. Not metaphorical nazis, literal nazis. Sorry, but that's where the bar is set right now.
They're worse than Nazis. They inspired the Nazis.
They ran the long con since the civil war. They've been around since the inception of the country.
They aren't just a death cult, or a sex trafficking ring, or organized crime. They are the plague of capitalist Ideology that the only people with rights and power are white male landowners.
Everyone and everything else is property to be owned and done as the owner pleases.
How many brown people does your police force have to kill before you qualify as a Nazi? What's the over/under?
Asking for the LASD.
So uhh... what do you suggest we do?
Short quippy answer? Unionize your work place.
Long, more difficult, and more controversial answer? Building Dual Power: Where They Retreat, We Must Advance
But the idea that you can just show up at a booth and hit the "No Fascists" button to make fascists go away is American consumerist brainrot.
Fascism is a consequence of prolonged, flagging, imperial expansion. It isn't limited to a single party. It's what happens to surplus military personal when they get mobilized by the excess capital in the private sector.
You fight it by building a community in your neighborhood that is self-reliant and resilient to violence from abroad. You can't contract some third party to politely ask fascists to leave you alone.
The fun part of Lemmy is it's quite small and so these names become recognizable. I believe Mr weezel is from a red state, I want to say Texas and all conversations indicate he has fallen hard for the anti democrate propaganda. He's likely a libertarian (diet republican) but I can't recall specially, there are a lot of leftist(tm) on here, aka Tankies.
Both have tha same complaints and the same level of emotional intelligence so it's really hard to tell them apart despite the ideologies being completely opposites.
Either way, his suggestion will ultimately allow a continued right wing majority.
At this point I agree that the (establishment) Democrats are not willing to push back against the corporate oligarchy, but I would say the only way forward is to push hard for progressive candidates in the primaries -- people like Zohran who are so relentless on policies that will help people that the socialist label has no negative effects on their campaigns. And then we hope that they can fight through the obstruction that will inevitably be put up by corporate interests.
And we see how excited establishment dems are to have a genuine progressive candidate who is almost guaranteed to win.
I don't disagree there. What i disageee with is that the Democratic Party cannot be salvaged. We can take it by force if needed me. The issue I see with it is there it full of boomers and genx-ers with boomer mindsets.
We need to primary all those fuckers so we can move forward. The ideas of Democratic Party resonate with people, the junk the centrists have are all Republicanesque.
I am immediately reminded of one such loser who laughed at the idea of $15 minimum wage back when they were in a position to push for it.
I don't like the term DINO (democrat in name only) because it sounds like a purity test but it's time we take action to push these people out by whatever means necessary.
A new party won't work. The republicans tried it. Taking over the party worked better for them and only took a few election cycles.
We need to unify and stop the in fighting. Anyone who resists or says liberals are just and bad or any other negativity towards a rebuild need to told to fuck off. They are not worth engagement.
For example, I will not respond to weasel but I will jump into to anyone attempting to engage with them. That's the entry point. Not these doom and gloom motherfuckers.
I don't think you're wrong here. There's always some green shoots - your Bernies, your Tailabs, your LA City Councils, your Mamdanis.
But you do have to recognize this as a salvage operation. You're not just getting behind the wheel and driving away in this thing. You need to gut it and rebuild it if you want to get where you plan to go.
Incredibly brave of you.
Yeah I'm with you 100%.
You mean the other side that has been building up and supporting these systems that keep them "powerless", even when they have had power? The same side that keeps capitulating and trying to "reach accross the isle"?
The other side is in the majority, powerless to stop it legally.