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[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 13 points 1 day ago

Apparently, the new vision is to use the Multiverse explanation in order to bring all of the characters into one single timeline. So, apparently, Marvel has become quite aware of your issues, as the new studio head feels the same way. They’re doing what they can to address it, FWIW

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

They're doing a Battleworld, the comic event where Doom kidnaps Franklin Richards, and the molecule man, in order to temporarily erase the multiverse.

The end of that particular comic storyline justified the end of the Ultimates universe, while allowing Miles Morales to join the main marvel universe.

Nothing else changed. Because the first law of comics is that nothing ever changes. Not really.

Movies on the other hand, have a problem. Actors age out of roles, so you should be changing the world with each movie... Marvel isn't doing that.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Actors age out of roles, so you should be changing the world with each movie...

Counterpoint: James Bond has been chugging along for sixty years. Some are better than others, but the basic outline is the same for almost every Bond movie, and it's still a prestige franchise.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Except for a select few movies, there's no continuity in the James Bond franchise.

Marvel wanted a sandbox to play in with established and maintained continuity, that's what a cinematic universe is. The main problem is that they're not following up on the continuity, or rather not letting the world actually change.

[-] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago

justified the end of the Ultimates universe

Ah, I really liked the ultimates universe because it did make a whole new start that I could jump into, compared to the decades of comics earlier. Plus they were pretty free about killing some characters off. I loved cyclops deciding to

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because it felt like the characters had room to grow, fuck up, and change... like they could act in ways that didn't need to preserve the status quo.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It was a wonderful experiment. And it showed what you can do with tight continuity control... But it was a bit too grimdark. Heroes need to be allowed to act like heroes, even when it's hard.

The Ultimates universe felt like all the big names were slowly drifting towards evil.

[-] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

I think my love for it came from the spiderman comic. Peter was great in the ultimate universe (and was the only comic I read through the entirety of). And yeah, grimdark is probably the right fit for it.

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