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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by slaacaa@lemmy.world to c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world

I saw this on reddit, thinking it’s a joke, but it’s not. GPT 5 mini (and maybe sometimes 5) gives this answer. You can check it yourself, or see somebody else’s similar conversation here: https://chatgpt.com/share/689a4f6f-18a4-8013-bc2e-84d11c763a99

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[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Wonder what else it’s wrong about, if it misses somehing this obvious. It seems to be ChatGPT is getting worse by every update

[-] officermike@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

While AI reasoning models will continue to improve, the data sets they pull from will continually get worse.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago

It's not "reasoning" anything, though. LLMs have no logic beyond what word is most likely to follow the previous. It's getting worse exactly because it's NOT reasoning.

[-] officermike@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

That's not my understanding based on this article I read yesterday.

https://minimaxir.com/2025/08/llm-blueberry/

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Just because "AI" models have named contrived systems after words related to intelligence does not magically make it true. "Reasoning models" are just shit algorithms tying multiple word blenders together in an attempt to mimic intelligence. There is nothing actually reasoning, no matter what some shit executive decides to name it.

Even in your own cited post, they say their system merely tries to determine if it should use a different model to answer a question, not that it's actually producing any level of "reasoning" what so ever. It's just picking a different model, ffs.

[-] hamms@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago

That's a blog post, not an article.

Why don't you give this one a read: https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/08/researchers-find-llms-are-bad-at-logical-inference-good-at-fluent-nonsense/

Or, even better, why not read the actual study: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2508.01191

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