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I would say this is almost certainly skewed by income, with the poorest Americans getting almost all of their calories from ultra processed foods, and the share decreasing with income. I would be curious to see that spread because one of the more fucked up things about this is that there are a lot of people who eat this stuff exclusively, and this number kind of hides that.
A tiny bag of chips is over $5 these days, and has less than 200 calories. Potatoes at fancy grocery stores are about $1/pound, and you can get them much cheaper if you go to "poor people" stores.
You can't get a double cheeseburger for $1 anymore.
It used to be true, they got people hooked on junk and fast food in the early 2000s, but those days are gone, people spend WAY TOO MUCH on junk food.
It's absolutely cheaper to buy fresh and eat healthy. It won't feel as good in your brain as good because it won't have all the addictive shit that makes junk food bad, but if you learn to cook it'll taste better.
Even lower income people have time to cook, but people would rather feed another addiction (spend hours on TV and TikTok, but one hour cooking is too much) and ordering delivery. Uber Eats sure doesn't profit off rich people only...
I’d argue that people engage in these activities because people are tired from working too hard for too little for too long
I have children and my wife and I are active present parents. we're not rich, we end my work day and begin my kids duty, when we put the kids to sleep we sometimes finish work that we couldn't because we spent time with the kids instead.
We cook their every meal, and we wake up early to pack them healthy snacks for school. And you know what we do to wind down? We watch some TV!
We also clean the house daily, clean laundry, shower the kids daily, and somehow I still have time to argue with people who can't find two hours a week to cook!
Cooking is not more exhausting than any other chore, and we've turned it into an enjoyable routine. You do what's important first, then you rest.
The vast majority of Americans you're referring to are not working construction 18 hours a day, they're working in an air conditioned building for 9 hours.
Probably also skewed by the fact that ultra processed foods are by default more calorie dense, therefore most of a day's calories might come from that.
I mean maybe this used to be true, but it is most definitely not anymore, not even close. It is waaay cheaper to eat healthier.
It is, but that doesn't mean that poor people don't still eat more highly processed foods. Not smoking or using drugs is also way cheaper than doing those things, but both are more prevalent among poor people in the US.
Then you need to reframe your point. If heating healthy is cheaper, then it isn't about income, it's about something else. Your whole argument is about how it is more expensive to eat healthy, which is not true at all.
You're imagining an argument and getting mad that I'm not making points in favor of said imaginary argument. .