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Prof. Emily M. Bender(she/her) @emilymbender@dair-community.social

We're going to need journalists to stop talking about synthetic text extruding machines as if they have thoughts or stances that they are trying to communicate. ChatGPT can't admit anything, nor self-report. Gah.

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[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Whining about using the word "admits" in this context is like whining about a science teacher using the word "wants" while talking about water taking the path of least resistance. We do this all the time in English.

Some serious "uhm ackshually!! โ˜๏ธ๐Ÿค“" energy.

[-] _g_be@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

But most people won't be convinced to think that water has consciousness.

With AI there is enough ambiguity about what it's doing, for the common person at least. And it's in the company's best interest to make it seem as smart as possible, after all, so they won't correct that.

Just saying, there's some reasoning behind criticizing the language here beyond the factual

[-] naeap@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

Tell that to homeopathy believers
Just don't stir the water and the wrong direction and it will somehow remember everything it wants to somehow tell you

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yer typical schoolchild knows that water doesn't have a brain. Meanwhile, billion dollar companies are spending millions to sell snake-oil to other companies by promising them that a subscription to a jump-up chatbot can replace their employees, and all the language surrounding "AI" suggesting it has any cognitive abilities at all only makes the problem worse, and is literally putting professional workers jobs on the line.

But yes, your simile is super accurate. ๐Ÿ™„

[-] ech@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

And personification of natural phenomena is also a problem. It undercuts the fundamental causes of things when we shortcut that by saying a thing or force "wants" to do something, especially while teaching. It can be useful at a very basic level (like, kindergarten/children's television), but only to a point. After that it is misleading and inefficient for actual education.

Same goes here. When we're discussing the problems of people treating algorithms as thinking, acting beings, referring to the output as a "choice" or "claim" is the very last thing we should do, let alone using it as evidence of anything. There is no memory there - it's fabricating a response based on the input, and the input directs the response. If I input a question like, "Why did you eat my pizza?", it would output text fitting the context of my question, probably something akin to "Because pizza is delicious" or something. That doesn't prove it at my pizza, it just shows the malleability of the algorithm.

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