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There are other hazards and i don't trust this society to deal with any of them in healthy ways.
I don't trust society to fairly give out any kind of health-related benefit. The USA just ended PEPFAR this year, condemning millions in africa to die of easily-preventable diseases. But you don't see me protesting the very notion of medical science.
Im seconding the 'this is how you get gattaca' comment.
If i could crispr myself in my garage, there's some shit I'd absolutely do right now. Like wonder when i got a garage.
But we cannot, as a socisty, be trusted with this tech until the billionaire class are exterminated.
If you want to have it and not have a dystopian nightmare shit show, get started on hunting the filth.
I don't really see why billionaires change the calculus. So what if they get slightly genetically superior children? They already have everything. As much as I want to tear down billionaires, I'm more interested in seeing the lower class be elevated than I am in not letting billionaires get further ahead.
You haven't actually read/watched any of the media we're talking about here, have you?
Like, we could get the full 'echopraxia' dystopian suite if we arent careful.
And with billionaires around, we can't be.
Gattaca is one of my favourite movies. Is there another thing you're talking about?
I liked the way posthuman society was portrayed in the 'firefall' novels, how fucking bleak and horrible it got, but omg.
Are you from the SF bay area? Is this the thing where you only ever got STEM education and now can't like piece of art, even a dystopian one, without trying to make it real?
I'm canadian. I have heard that san fran is Canada's 4th biggest city by population or something like that, but no, I don't live there.
Something I wonder is why people treat gattaca like it's exactly and completely prescient, but at the same time have no worry at all about AI x-risks because "terminator was science fiction, so there's nothing to worry about."
Because ai bros aren't people anymore.
I've heard a useful explanation that a llm can't automate anything that isn't already like 95% no-human-in-the-loop already, and i find this is convincing. I think there could be a lot of humans who were already total (or very nearly) philosophical zombies; just zero critical thinking, zero interiority, zero understanding mother fuckers. Or just severed from anything important; idk. This shit must be rapturous to them.
But also that using this shit makes you stupid. Searching with it and chatting with it in particular. If thats true, something in their heads fucking d>es. Maybe it'll be recoverable when we stop subsidizing this crap and their chatbot waifu shuts down, maybe they're just soup-headed forever now. Idk.
Some combination of these things, and the aforementioned 'i read 1984 and was inspired to put cameras in your tv' bullshit literally every tech exec does compulsively.
Plus where the industry is, they're kind of jacking off to 'terminator'; they're very interested in edging skynet. One-to-many power is kind of their favorite thing.