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Just like theme parks, the idyllic vision of the product is when you’re the only one around enjoying the product. The reality of LOTS of people enjoying the product while you do inherently reduces the appeal.
This is why indie rock lovers hated that it went mainstream. Suddenly everyone was enjoying the product they previously had to themselves.
I think the difference for music, movies, books, etc is that the product itself doesn’t change in substance or function when more people are using it. Parks, Cars and the infrastructure that enables them, Restaurants, and other experiential products are negatively impacted by widespread usage. Cars are less enjoyable because of traffic. Lines to get on space mountain make the whole experience worse than you imagine the ride itself being. All this stuff is marketed as a fantasy version of the actual experience you have in a way that isn’t the same as when other people are cringe with your music.
For some products you can probably draw some nice enjoyment curve. Cars for example, if you are the only one that has a car it sucks, no roads, no gas stations, etc. If everyone has one it also sucks, traffic jams, polution, noise, etc.
Some goes for most other things, beaches are great when it's not crowded but there are enough people so they also have some places to get drinks and go to the bathroom. When it's crowded and it's basically towels touching it sucks.
I think for bikes the curve is much more spread out, even in the Netherlands where basically everyone ownes a bike, you can still enjoy it.
I do notice that when I was younger bicycle roads where a lot less crowded, so I feel for me personally the peak of the curve has been reached.
Most definitely. Like another commenter pointed out, music and movies don’t change but the way you experience them does. Theaters, Event halls become larger and more crowded on a kind of curve as well which makes them more expensive while also becoming less enjoyable.
I often wonder why there aren’t more copies of things rather than making the existing one bigger. The population of my city is bigger than the population of the bigger city an hour away did when they first had the airport i have to drive to, or the bigger stores and restaurants when they first opened. Why don’t we have more of those things even though in the last 30 years we’ve grown to what was at that time large enough to support that expansion?
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Is this a good comparison at all? I don't believe so, as the other commenter explained nicely.
Did Indie Rock lovers hate that their music went mainstream?
Or did they hate that they didn't play in small cozy venues anymore but large and anodyne halls that cost 10x per ticket? That their records started sounding worse for much the same reasons? That artists got bogged down with contracts that forced them to produce more, more, more whether they had ideas in their head or not?
The last one is the most important one to me: Independent is not just a genre, it actually means independently produced. And that sort of Independent never dies and rarely goes mainstream.