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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Nobody has a problem with this, it's generative AI that's demonic

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Generative AI is a meaningless buzzword for the same underlying technology, as I kinda ranted on below.

Corporate enshittification is what's demonic. When you say fuck AI, you should really mean "fuck Sam Altman"

[-] monotremata@lemmy.ca 29 points 5 days ago

I mean, not really? Maybe they're both deep learning neural architectures, but one has been trained on an entire internetful of stolen creative content and the other has been trained on ethically sourced medical data. That's a pretty significant difference.

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I think DLSS/FSR/XeSS is a good example of something that is clearly ethical and also clearly generative AI. Can't really think of many others lol

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Generative AI is a meaningless buzzword for the same underlying technology

What? An AI that can "detect repirstory ilnesses in xrays and MRI scans" is not generative. It does not generate anything. It's a discriminative AI. Sure, the theories behind these technologies have many things is common - but I wouldn't call them "the same underlying technology".

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

It is litterally the exact same technology. If i wanted to i could turn our xray product into a image generator in less than a day.

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Because they are both computers and you can install different (GPU-bound) software on them?

It's true that generative AI is uses discriminative models behind the scenes, but the layer needed on top of that is enough to classify it as a different technology.

[-] petrol_sniff_king 2 points 5 days ago

No, I mean fuck AI. You can be included in that, if you insist.

[-] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Generative AI uses the same technology. It learns when trained on a large data set.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

It's almost like it isn't the "training on a large data set" part that people hate about generative AI

ICBMs and rocket ships both burn fuel to send a payload to a destination. Why does NASA get to send tons of satellites to space, but I'm the asshole when I nuke Europe??? They both utiluze the same technology!

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

So would you disagree with the OP about there being no exceptions?

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

Nope, all generative AI is bad, no exceptions. Something that uses the same kind of technology but doesn't try to imitate a human with artistic or linguistic output isn't the kind of AI we're talking about.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago
  1. Except clearly some people do. This post is very specifically saying ALL AI is bad and there is no exceptions.

  2. Generative AI isnt a well defined concept and a lot of the tech we use is indistinguishable on a technical level from "Generstive AI"

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)
  1. sephirAmy explicitly said generative AI

  2. Give me an example, and watch me distinguish it from the kind of generative AI sephirAmy is talking about

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Again. Geneative AI is a meaningless term.

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