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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by mathemachristian@lemm.ee to c/meta@lemm.ee

Not sure how to report entire communities, but https://lemm.ee/c/vaccines just opened up and it's a troll forum for vaccine misinformation.

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[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If problematic groups are in echo chambers, they affirm each other. For example many ex-racists said that interacting people outside their hate bubble was the first step to get better.

In addition, wrong information also affects the passersby, who might not be active participants. It takes a lot more resources to correct knowledge with facts than it takes to spam disinformation and it slowly sticks.

So bursting bubbles and purging fake content seems like a viable solution.

[-] zephyrvs@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

And you'd rather haven them join Parlor/Truthsocial/whatever or just spend even more time on uncensored Youtube alternatives where they're even less likely to encounter opposing opinions?

Isolating people and opinions by driving them into ever smaller circles of influences sounds like something Steve Bannon and his peers would approve most of.

[-] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Your argument is irrational and inherently flawed to the point of leaning toward a bad faith origin.

[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Those communities aren't popping up here for honest discussion, it's to increase the reach of disinformation and/or trolling for the lulz.

Engaging with them accomplishes the exact opposite of what you suggest, since they are not here to argue in good faith.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Those are echo chambers

I don't know if you noticed but you tried to put an opposite idea from your head to be mine

[-] Strobe0490@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

What ever happened to "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"? I think you need to realize that echo chambers of misinformation are a symptom, not a cause. Fighting the echo chambers but not the root causes of what pushes people there only emboldens them and leads to more polarization.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I think humanity left that behind around this accelerated polarization when they noticed that it takes zero effort to spam what is wrong and magnitudes of limited resources to do the correcting.

And if everyone just defends "yeah it's ok to spread that even though it's not right" we see the accelerationism growing.

The effect on internet platforms isn't important to the 9 % commenting, it's to the rest who don't engage. They browse, they see things which aren't real. Some they dismiss, some they don't, but they all have an effect on their subconscious.

Of course the root cause should be sorted as well, it's just that this is also a known issue with massive harm to prevent

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