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Collective Shout, a small but vocal lobby group, has long called for a mandatory internet filter that would prevent access to adult content for everyone in Australia. Its director, Melinda Tankard Reist, was recently appointed to the stakeholder advisory board for the government’s age assurance technology trial before the under-16s social media ban comes into effect in Australia in December.

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[-] xep@fedia.io 22 points 5 days ago

What are the alternatives to Visa/Mastercard?

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

Discover, American Express, Diner’s Club, and the one that still rules them all, Cash. There are probably others, but Visa and Mastercard are the two largest.

[-] seralth@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Diners club hasn't been available to normal people and small businesses for years now. It's basically a large business company card only thing nowadays.

[-] arararagi@ani.social 10 points 5 days ago

How do I transfer my cash to online stores?

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 12 points 5 days ago

You can in Japan apparently. They have a system where you can go to convenience store and pay by scanning a code

You can also sorta use zelle, but the technical integration is not great. It's a very manual process as it is

Ultimately, the problem is we let two companies dominate commerce itself. We just need to let the governmet do payment processing, and require compatibility

[-] xep@fedia.io 4 points 5 days ago

Japan also accepts bank transfer for online payments. So you don't even need to leave your house.

[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Interac if you're Canadian, and if the store accepts e-transfers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interac

[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

How hard can you throw?

Amex gift cards. Cashapp uses Block(Square) for their payment processing, which is easier to use because you can transfer funds to that from your bank.

[-] exu@feditown.com 3 points 5 days ago

Visa and MasterCard really are the only two you see in Europe

There are a lot of places going cashless these days. Heck some of my kids friend went to target and couldn't buy anything because target didn't have the staff to run anything but the self checkout, which at this place didn't accept cash. They had to leave empty-handed.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Discover and Diners Club merged a few years ago btw. Discover also has an alliance with JCB.

So Discover network is actually really, really big.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

In Canada, I'd like to see Interac develop into one. Hopefully more prominence wouldn't ruin it

Edit:

Following several aborted merger attempts which were either blocked by the Competition Bureau or by some of the co-owners between 2008 and 2013, Interac and Acxsys were combined into a single for-profit organization, Interac Corporation, on 1 February 2018.

Never mind. It would be inevitable.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 6 points 5 days ago

In Italy, there's a debit card circuit called PagoBancomat.

Italy also has a digital-only payment system called Satispay. Denmark and Finland have MobilePay (which is way better than Satispay). Sweden has Swish.

Your country may have something similar, look it up. And then you can always pay with PayPal by connecting your bank account directly, with no cards involved (at least in Europe).

[-] Lyra_Lycan 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

At the cost of a less stable value, you can convert your currency to BTC, store it on a physical wallet like those made by Ledger and self-host BTCPay Server to make receiving money easier (alt cryptocurrency available via integrations). As for spending, that depends entirely on the recipient cooperating and accepting BTC. There are also 'payment gateways' that should help, including self-hosting a verifiable debit card. I'm still looking into it.

[-] xep@fedia.io 16 points 5 days ago

No thanks. It's not for me.

[-] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago

How is an even more niche process that involves having to go to an exchange to buy crypto then safe guard it and it being a taxable event when buying goods with it in some countries a solution?

People are wanting a mainstream alternative that the companies that they buy from use, and if the companies don't care to use it then it doesn't matter for the average person.

Even people actually into crypto are less interested in spending it because it exposes their balance if they aren't using coin mixers or monero which can make them a target. Not to mention most just see it as stock they hope goes to the moon as opposed to going through the cumbersome process of buying for the purpose of spending it like a depreciating asset.

[-] sleen@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Unfortunately crypto is already complicated as is. And as the other user said bitcoin isn't the best choice. Monero would be as close to the overall goal as it is possible.

Now using monero would be more anonymous than credit/debit cards making it a better option - but not many vendors support it, and cash is just simpler than any other option.

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