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[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Petitions like this are meaningless unless they come with a viable solution to the duopoly in payment processing that is Visa and Mastercard.

It doesn't matter what Valve agrees with, if they want to survive as a business they have to ultimately do what the only 2 companies that handle the payment processing tells them to do.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You're missing the point. This is not aimed at Valve, but at Visa and MasterCard. They are businesses. They primarily care about profit, not censorship. Especially when that pisses people off. They made the mistake of listening to the vocal minority of Collective Shout, so we have to let them know that. This isn't the 80's anymore, gaming is mainstream and there are far, far more gamers than puritanical Quakers that get the vapors at the sight of anything mature or complicated. And worst-case scenario, they are not the only payment processors, just the most convenient ones for customers and businesses. For now...

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Are you calling them Quakers as a derogatory slur or are they actually Quakers/Religious Society of Friends people.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A "slur"? No. But I was referring to the overly strict, hair-splitting kind of religious extremism that adheres to the letter of the law, not the spirit/intent.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

So yes, you did. Quakers (used to be) quite progressive.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

Okay...? Democrats used to support slavery.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

They flipped their beliefs with Republicans. That's a unlikely occurrence.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

I do still wait for an answer.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It was 3 in the morning here. Relax.

Edit: Oh, you just wanted to argue. Definitely sorry I was late for that...

[-] DNS@discuss.online 9 points 1 week ago

Consumers punting the accountability and responsibility of their demise to the next generation of consumers. I hate how feeble and weak willed we are all as a species.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

we have been like this lately, but humans are definitely not weak willed or feeble at all.

shit, the right wing nuts are killing themselves over their beliefs rn.

[-] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Valve is a big enough company that they could conceivably start their own payment provider to bypass this.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

For example they could sell adult games under credits only and take CC or PayPal for credits.

This way you're not buying adult titles with CC at all. Same way AAA deal with gambling with lootboxes.

[-] prole 1 points 1 week ago

Can't people do this already? Just load up your Steam Wallet, and then use those funds however you want?

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Cant use the steam wallet when they delist the game.

[-] princessnorah 5 points 6 days ago

Yes but the payment processors didn't say "you're not allowed to sell this game with our service" they said "you're not allowed to sell this game period or we walk".

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

There's the bullshit right there.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

Come on, Gabe. You know you wanna.

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago

You do know what happens to Valve Time any time someone tells Gabe to hurry up, right?

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