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For maximum disruption, phone, then email. If they don't respond in a timely manner (or it's boilerplate bs), another phone call to "clarify" things.
Just remember, the grunts on the phone aren't your enemy. Your goal is to maximise the amount of time you swallow, not to upset them. They could often be allies in hiding.
We don't have to truly break them. We just have to be more annoying than the religious nutjobs.
One-tap dial phone numbers:
Master card
US + Can English
(skips card number input)
Global
Visa
PayPal
US English
Say "make a complaint"
Global
Stripe (unconfirmed)
Script:
Mastercard is now trying to get you to give your bank/card in order to take the complaint lol had 3 reps ask. Don't give em the info they might cancel your card or some shit in retaliation
I have a friend who runs starlight shop. She’s not allowed to use cards for many things because the payment processors are convinced she is running a scam since they have classes on reiki and palm reading and herbs and stones and other stuff they tell her they “don’t pay fortune tellers.”
This really should be regulated. Electronic payments must accept everything cash can be used for or nothing. None of this censorship bullshit.
I mean a broken clock is right twice a day. No one should be spending money on such nonsense. I’m not sure to call it a scam though. Is it a scam if you yourself are also a victim?
At least with adult content you are receiving what you pay for. When you are buying magic you literally are not getting what you paid for.
Even if you believe in magic it has never been shown to exist.
By that logic they should be closing down all the Christian stores. Notice how they aren’t.
I am a secular person. But at least at a Christian store you are getting the book/cross/thing you are paying for.
If you buy magic you get literally nothing.
At the voodoo store I can get books/totems/things I’m paying for.
If you buy hallelujah you get literally nothing.
A better analogy would be tithing by card. I'm not certain you can do it but I'd be surprised if not
Buying books and totems and things would not be scams. You give money and get a thing. Same as a Christian buying a Christian book or cross or angel statue.
Prayers and magic in exchange for money are you giving money for nothing. Hallelujah would be in the money for nothing category.
What about the service of performing a ritual?
I mean, if I want to spend my money on bullshit mumbo jumbo, that’s my prerogative. It’s not a payment processor’s responsibility to police what dumb shit I choose to believe in.
Hell does "we don't pay fortune tellers" mean? Remember miss Cleo? She made a crap load of money, and it definitely wasn't cash!
afaik it’s not a new policy for mastercard/visa: what’s new is that valve, itch, and even visa and mastercard were just kinda ignoring it
worth noting it’s not all adult content either… things like fisting even are fine, but “bodily fluids” are not. it’s a bit of a weird one all round
i think that they just did a big over-correction
and to be clear, i absolutely DO NOT think even the policy as it stands/stood should hold: they shouldn’t be in the business of morality policing almost anything - if i want to pay for videos/games with bodily fluids in porn then they should facilitate that transaction