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[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

There isn’t. Every single word that gets translated to “hell” in English has a different and specific meaning in the source documents… usually “grave” but sometimes “Gehenna” which was an actual place with bad connotations, and “Hades” in the context of a parable, being literally the Greek/Hellenist underworld.

Jews, including Jesus, did not believe in an afterlife, per se. Instead, there were two schools of thought. First was that you get one life die, that’s it. This was espoused by the ruling, priestly class. Second, and what Jesus literally espoused, was that at the end of time, everyone would be resurrected and judged. Those judged righteous would then be granted a new life in a newly created place and everyone else disposed of, permanently dead.

[-] CXORA@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

There is text in the bible referring to unworthy people suffering after their deaths.

That it was not literally called "hell" in the original text is a distraction.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There is not. Not in an afterlife, at least. You may be thinking of the last judgement, which is part of the “resurrection of the dead” that I previously mentioned. That’s the part with the “weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

[-] CXORA@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago

Luke 16:24 is absolutely in the afterlife.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

That is actually a parable, just as fictitious as the one that comes immediately before it. It utilizes Hellenist terms and imagery for the benefit of an audience familiar with those concepts. The parable is set in Hades, the literal greek underworld. The point of the parable is to drive home the hopelessness for hoarders of wealth, as the more someone has, the more is expected of them.

[-] CXORA@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago

I understand that it is a parable.

But it is still literally scripture, where someone suffers in the afterlife. That the moral of the story is the rich must share their wealth to avoid the same fate rather supports my position.

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