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submitted 1 week ago by eezeebee@lemmy.ca to c/ontario@lemmy.ca

"But we also think that the responsibility for the safety of [low-income people] — and let's face it, it's low-income people who have this problem — that's a responsibility for society at large, for everyone, not just for the people who happen to own the buildings where these people make their homes."

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[-] timberwolf1021 4 points 1 week ago

Landlords are not philanthropists. You are not going to find a big group of homeowners who want to rent at a loss out of the goodness of their own hearts.

I would love if the government took strong measures to encourage home ownership and discourage treating real estate as an investment. Really, I would. But that will take many years of hard work and economics PhDs to concoct a plan that works. So, until we find a government with the balls to do that for real, we have to understand that dealing with landlords in a realistic way is a necessary evil.

Because if you nuke rentals without first ensuring people can afford to buy, all you'll accomplish is to create a mass housing shortage worse than you've ever seen.

[-] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

House ownership should be a right not an investment.

[-] timberwolf1021 1 points 1 week ago

I agree! However, it will take a lot of time and carefully crafted policy to make that happen, without perverse incentives appearing. In the meantime, we have to live in the real world and deal with landlords as a (hopefully temporary) fact of life.

[-] socialsecurity@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

we have to understand that dealing with landlords in a realistic way is a necessary evil.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_housing_in_Singapore

[-] timberwolf1021 1 points 1 week ago

What is this supposed to prove?

[-] socialsecurity@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

That we don't in fact have to deal with the parasites to have housing avaliable for working people

[-] timberwolf1021 1 points 5 days ago

So do we just... fuck over all the renters living in landlord-owned units for the next 5-20 years while this cool new mass public housing is being built by all those extra construction workers we definitely don't have a shortage of?

[-] socialsecurity@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago

We should let the housing market crash out, then nationalize it ;)

Similar to what was done after 2008 except federal government doesn't give money parasites and just does it by itself

[-] timberwolf1021 1 points 3 days ago

Do you realize how many suicides and assorted anguish such a crash would cause?

I swear to gods, you people don't really know how to think things through.

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