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[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The other question is: where are we living? It takes a lot more resources to live in Canada than it does to live in a warm climate to the south. Does that mean we all have to abandon Canada and crowd ourselves into the hot equatorial regions?

Otherwise those numbers seem like a huge downgrade for even working class Canadians. It goes to show you that Canada is a truly rich country and all but the least fortunate here have far more resources than someone living in the poorest countries in the world.

[-] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

Yeah, that list sounds like literal prison. That's a hard sell for a good chunk of people.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Prison in a hot climate with no AC. No thanks!

[-] astutemural@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

ITT: people who didn't even glance at the study.

Quoting from the study:

"It is important to understand that the DLS represents a minimum floor for decent living. It does not represent a an aspirational standard and certainly does not represent a ceiling. However, it is also a level of welfare not currently achieved by the vast majority of people. A new paper by Hoffman et al finds that 96.5 percent of people in low- and middle-income countries are deprived of at least one DLS dimension...we can conclude that 6.4 billion people, more than 80% of the world's population, are deprived of DLS."

The authors are not suggesting that everyone be forced on DLS at gunpoint. They are suggesting an absolute bare minimum standard that the overwhelming majority of people on Earth do not yet even have. Quite obviously any excess production could and would be used to increase standard of living.

[-] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

They talk about it in the PDF. Basically its a weighted average. Some people live in colder climates and need more heating/clothes, others need less. It then averages out to those numbers.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

So it’s not really giving everyone in the world an exactly equal share of resources. Not to mention there’s a natural component to inequality that’s independent of resources: location. A 10 m^2 per person shack is a lot more bearable on a beach in Southern California than it is in a desert or an insect-infested swamp.

[-] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

Its not about giving people resources, merely estimating what it would take for everyone to meet DLS requirements if they live where they currently live.