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[-] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Which is undeniably bad, but nowhere close to what Clinton had envisioned. Clinton wanted more of a second Iraq invasion style war and occupation for Iran.

[-] Malek061@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago

The whole coulda, woulda, shoulda, doesn't work. Trump declared war and bombed Iran. Its not the same.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

By this logic you could also not claim that Clinton or Biden would not have done something Trump did, or had done something better instead.

Or we accept that consistent positions and behaviors of politicians can be extrapolated to hypothetical situations.

[-] yuri@pawb.social 27 points 1 week ago

you’re the only one extrapolating to hypotheticals. declaring something is bad doesn’t require you also provide/support some perfect alternative.

they just said trump actually did the thing you believe clinton would’ve done. y’know, hypothetically. hence why you were hit with the “shoulda woulda coulda”

[-] Malek061@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Negotiated the non proliferation agreement with Iran under Obama. Does that count?

[-] Senal@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

Are you sure you want to use "Publicly stated positions and intentions" as a metric to defend trump ?

i mean, you could, it just seems like you might not have thought that all the way through.

[-] breecher@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

"It is nowhere as bad as these fictional scenarios I just concocted".

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