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[-] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

EU has one currency, a president, Frontex, a High Representative for Common Foreign and Security Policy or foreign minister, regulations that are essentially laws, courts, and they can use the Nato command structure if the US opts out of a conflict. Why should anyone but Europeans not think that the EU is a country?

[-] normalexit@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is clearly a form letter that was hastily sent without due diligence.

The EU is not a country. A normie on the street might think of it as one, but the US government should understand / recognize the nuance. Whether this was a subtle dig or incompetence I'm not sure. Probably both.

[-] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

I understand that. But the nuances are dissolving. Soon the EU will be a country and this was the first time the citizens were made aware of it.

[-] Gaylactus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I understand that.

Clearly, you don't

[-] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Gaylactus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The fact of you being oblivious that many EU state members populations feel that there are more differences than communalities with other member states, and that such a decision would require a large majority of the popular vote, in all the countries involved, to be achieved.

Even for a nation to join the EU, referendums are done for that purpose alone, much less to transform the EU into a Federation, and specially considering the current political climate, and the rise of far-right sentiment all around the world.

We are more likely to see WW3 start, than seeing a federated EU, and odds are, with a WW3, humans will no longer have the need for any federation of any sort. Maybe cockroaches will!

[-] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Formalities. If the EU controls everything there is no need to turn it into a federation. Besides it will never happen because the mechanism to determine the commission is too good to be changed.

[-] Gaylactus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well, my parents always told me to not contradict crazy people, so I will respectfully leave this conversation. My thoughts and prayers to you!

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

I get your argument, I genuinely do, but this isn't some harmless, fun semantic discussion about what is or isn't a country online amongst friends, this is the president of the United States making a massive mistake in an official communication.

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