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1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here
Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.
2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such
That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.
3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.
That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).
4. No Bigotry.
The only dangerous minority is the rich.
5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.
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6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.
That's not the argument I made. I said that there were Republicans and foreign actors targeting the anti-trump voting bloc.
So who did you vote for in the last 4 elections?
Gotcha, so where are we at with that "leftist" party? I don't see much organizing going on over there.
Proxy voting for trump is proxy voting for trump. If you wanted trump to lose, you would have voted for the viable candidate that stood a chance of beating him. Simple as that.
There's precisely no evidence of Republicans or foreign actors pointing out the bipartisan support for the genocide of Palestinians as a means to get Trump elected.
Not telling you who I've voted for, you aren't owed that.
PSL is growing more rapidly than ever, and is spearheading a lot of the current protests against Trump and against ICE, against the bombing of Iran, against the genocide of Palestinians, and more. You should join! Would be good for your political growth.
There is no such thing as "proxy voting." I did not vote for Trump, and no matter who I voted for, he still would have won. It wasn't close, and it wasn't because of some master play by foreign actors and Republicans. It's because the DNC has moved so far to the right that they are utterly disconnected from the needs of the working class, a class they can't support because just like the GOP, they are a party of the capitalist class.
The "silence" is deafening.
Saying it again doesn't make it right. Thats not the argument I put forth. Read it again, slower this time.
Also, you should really rethink PSL. I looked into them last year after a commentor suggested them as an "anti-genocide" party... And there is a lot of support of the North Korean Workers party, and the CCP in the PSL organization. Both of which have perpetuated horrible genocides and human rights abuses.
So no, I won't be joining.
There was no "silence." I outright told you that you aren't owed an answer.
I read your comment, it's exactly what you meant.
Further, you're deeply confused about PSL, the WPK, PSL's stance on the CPC and DPRK, as well as Socialism and Socialist history in general. Talk to a local chapter and try to get a better understanding of things. By the sounds of it, you'd condemn Nelson Mandela, Cuba, the Black Panther Party, all manner of Socialist orgs. Considering your erasure of the Palestinian genocide, I don't think you're a good reference for anything.
Like, what genocide have Koreans, North or South, ever comitted? Koreans on both sides were the victims of genocide at the hands of the US Empire. More tons of bombs were dropped on Korea than the entire pacific front of World War II, and the US was preparing to nuke it.
Citation needed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_North_Korea
I seriously doubt your ability to comprehend the written word since you've read it 3 times and still can't accurately summarize my stance on the issue.
Your comment got removed for your erasure of the Palestinian genocide, you made it seem like pre-October 7 there was no genocide and that "both groups have been killing each other for hundreds of years," you have no analysis of Israel as a settler-colony.
As for the Arduous March, that's a horrible mischaracterization. After the fall of the USSR, the DPRK's main trading partner, the economy was in utter shambles. The US deliberately sanctioned the DPRK in the hopes that starvation would lead to the people overthrowing the government, rather than letting them trade for food, or even export commodities in exchange. This was on top of floods and drought.
You have no actual knowledge of Korea or Palestine, you rely on Wikipedia articles as a substitute fot actually digging into these subjects. You have a thoroughly western-centric and US-friendly viewpoint with surface-level knowledge at best.
Again, I read your comment, it's exactly what you meant. There is precisely no evidence of foreign actors pointing out the bipartisan support for genocide as a means to get Trump elected. Zero. This is an utter fantasy you invented in order to reconcile your willing participation in a genocidal system.
Right now, you aren't really worth talking with. You don't actually have an understanding of the subjects we are discussing, historically or conceptually. I suggest you take a step back and do some actual research. The books and articles I linked earlier on Israel and Palestine are good for an intro on that matter, at the very least.
With liberals like you, who needs republicans?
My comment was unfairly removed.
Acknowledging that the conflict has been going on for hundreds of not thousand of years of years at this point apparently counts as trivializing genocide.
I'm not sure why I got kicked for it after you trivialized the genocides that the PSL defends, but hey, this is "leftists memes", so as long as a group has the word "peoples" or "socialist" or "workers" in the name then it must be good.
Edit: I will check out the articles, but I can't read everything instantaneously.
Modern Israel is less than a century old. This is not a "thousands of years old conflict," it's younger than World War II. Israel is a settler-colony, one that appeared less than a century ago. This is why your comment was removed, you call famines caused by economic crisis, sanctions, drought, and flood "genocide" but extend the most nuance to a fascist settler-colony that collaborated with the Nazis and is anti-Yiddish.
All of your critique is utterly devoid of a real understanding. Take a step back. Even though PSL has largely the same stances as Cuba, the Black Panther Party, Nelson Mandela, Malcolm X, and other Socialist and Socialist-sympathetic groups and figures, you condemn them without actually digging into their real stances. Go to a local chapter and ask questions.
It is good for you to read. You shouldn't discuss subjects you haven't studied as though you have, it comes across as infantilizing and as you already did, makes light of genuine mass slaughter of Palestinians and cultural absorption. Your misframing me as simply looking at the name of something to determine if its good or bad, when I've already demonstrated that I put far more effort into studying these subjects, is utter cope.
If you want, I can offer good sources and readings, or you can try to find good sources on your own. The less you speak on matters you don't know nor understand, the more worthwhile the conversations you'll have will be.
With that, I'm disengaging.
1948 was not the exact moment that all the Jews teleported to a section of Palestine. As stated before, the area has a long history of conquest and conflict since 3 major religions all consider the area a holy land.