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On X11 and the Fascists Maggots (blogs.gnome.org)

submitted 5 days ago by Mihies@programming.dev to c/linux@programming.dev

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This is a truly WTF moment about messed up responses to X11 session removal in Gnome.

2 weeks ago I published a blogpost about the upcoming plans of GNOME 49 and the eventual removal of the X11 session. Since then, instead of looking at feedback, bugs and issues related to the topic, we all collectively had to deal with the following, and I am not exaggerating one bit:

Fascists and Nazis
Wild Conspiracy Theories that make Qanon jealous
“Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session
A culture war where Wayland is Gay, and X11 is the glorious past they stole from you

In my wildest dreams I could have never made this shit up. You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

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[-] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 10 points 4 days ago

I use X11 over Wayland on KDE Neon for RustDesk compatibility. The Wayland support for that application is still in Beta from what I understand.

Are there other reasons why I should keep X11? I am on AMD Ryzen 9 5950X paired with a RTX 3090 FE on 570-open drivers, for reference.

[-] pohart@programming.dev 4 points 4 days ago

I'm fairly sure there's no way to do remote Wayland from Windows, yet without X11. But what do I know? I'm running ububtu 22.04 still

[-] HER0@beehaw.org 2 points 2 days ago

Remote Wayland, no, as it isn't network transparent like X11 is. You can still do remote desktops, though, usually with RDP or VNC. On the popular modern toolkits, this works out about the same, since drawing applications through X11 is not so common anymore.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago

From my weak Linux knowledge, Wayland has problems with screen sharing.

[-] underscores@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I know there's dozen ways to screen share but I mostly care about discord and discord screen sharing doesn't work on Linux, curiously enough if you get obs to create a virtual camera of whatever you want to stream it will stream it flawlessly. Use the default way of streaming anything and it craps out