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even if you believe that humans are inherently violent and untrustworthy (white supremacist propaganda), that would be an argument against more hierarchy and deputizing state violence not for police existing.
frankly it sounds like you don't have lived experience with what it is that police actually do.
Your comments are especially humorous because you are WAY off.
I've been through the system. Long story short, I asked how to answer a question on a government form, I did what I was told, and I faced fraud charges. The cops fucked me, my defender fucked me, and the judge fucked me. I have NO faith in the system as it is.
You want to talk about being naive. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that if there was no law enforcement, that everybody would just start being nice to each other? How? Like for real, explain to me the rationale behind that.
I'm totally on your side. Fuck the police. A key lesson I taught my kids is NEVER talk to cops. Period.
Lawless anarchy won't work either. Those power hungry people who WOULD have become cops just to bully people, are just going to do it without a badge, and we'd find ourselves in a modern wild west. Whoever has the gun, will make the rules. Even the facade of regulation we have now would be gone.
I'm not trying to be rude but this is exactly what's happening rn in the US with ICE agents and their mercenaries.
they're not able to commit the deportations because of a lack of law enforcement, but because laws are inherently racist. this shit started before Trump took power during a "progressive" presidency like Obama's. most people would probably agree he was following the rules of democracy yet he deported the most people.
Relevance? Two thirds of my last comment was complaining about how fucked the system is. You don't have to convince me of that. But, what you haven't told me is how a world without ANY law enforcement works.
Tell me how serial rapists are dealt with in your lawless world.
no laws doesn't mean no community values. victims either kill their rapist in self-defense or we all gather together to beat the rapist with a stick.
if they hold any position of power, they'd be banned from office forever and stripped of any social capital. if they try to contact their victims again, they're exiled.
but most importantly, we should ask the victim what they want, short of the death penalty or torture.
Too bad your entire justice system falls apart when I add one tiny detail: a ski mask.
She doesn't know who this guy is, so now what?
yeah, you're arguing in bad faith. why would a rapist need a ski mask when most rapes happen in the workplace, in the family or by intimate partners?
Interesting that in your world no rapist would ever think of that, but even if we pretend a woman always knows her rapist, what's your solution for roofies? That's a thing, woman wakes up battered no memory. Who does she tell? Who looks for this guy?