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[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago

So I'm familiar with this organization for reasons.

USDTL itself is the real deal. Not a drug testing expert, but it's probable the assay used flags positive for Ecstasy in the presence of either MDMA and/or MDMA metabolites like MDA. Like the guy below you said, it's also common to separate out oxy from opiates - an opiate screen from this lab detects codeine, hydrocodone, hydromorphone, and morphine. The oxy screen flags positive in the presence of oxycodone and oxymorphone.

None of this is to say it's actually Elon's urine, though - I'd usually give USDTL the benefit of the doubt re: chain of custody, but the guy has too much money and brainwashees to totally rule out this being an unsupervised collection where someone else's pee was swapped in. Send me an uncut video of a hair collection, with the specimen id clearly marked and everything packaged up to forensic standards on camera, and I might have less doubt.

At least in that case, any fuckery after the fact is a great way to lose CAP accreditation.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Even pissing from your own dick it's super fucking easy to dilute through your own kidneys with the right mixture of electrolyte solution and creatine supplements. The only way a piss test is valid is if it's a surprise and you watch the person piss.

[-] bier@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago

As someone that doesn't know anything about drugtests, how long are these things still testable?

[-] Lupus@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

If you only consume occasionally pretty much all of those substances are only testable 1-3 days after consuming them, if you're a regular user it's usually between 5-7 days maximum.

As a regular user Ketamine could be tested up to 14 days in your urine. THC has the longest timeframe with up to 60 days when you use regularly.

[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Will share what I know, but for the record I'm a layman - any toxicologists in the house?

Depends on the compound, dosage, frequency of use, sample type, and test method. A screening immunoassay, for instance, will usually have a higher cut off than an LC-MS/MS (liquid chromatography tandem mass spectrometry) test. Good rule of thumb for your typical urine drug of abuse screen is 2 to 3 days, but again this varies (THC, for instance, can be detected for a loong time depending how big a stoner you are/how long you've used).

The stuff folks are mostly worried about re: Elon? About 2-3 days, assuming the typical urine DoA screen.

Now, you can also test other sample types (hair, nails, etc.), and in which case some compounds are detectable for much longer (90 days, etc.). But that window is also impacted by stuff like (in the case of hair, for example) how much hair is collected, where it's collected (scalp v. body hair), how long after last use it's collected, etc.

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Send me an uncut video of a hair collection, with the specimen id clearly marked and everything packaged up to forensic standards on camera, and I might have less doubt.

You know all his hair are implants right?

Even the ones on his balls?

(Sort of kidding, though fr I'd prefer a body hair collection anyway)

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I just don't care. If it comes out without a doubt he's on drugs, people will use it as an excuse for his behavior. While in fact he's a fucking nazi asshole with or without drugs.

True - I just want him caught in another lie for the hell of it tbh, no matter what his choices re: chemical recreation he's a piece of shit.

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