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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 11 points 1 week ago

They're not, but genocide is also a very American act gestures at manifest destiny. My point isn't that entities hostile to America are good guys by default, but that so-called American values are and have always been a farce and that supporting or opposing something depending on its "American-ness' is illogical.

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 1 week ago

How are the American-ness values of liberty, arms, and the right to overthrow tyrants “insane” or “illogical”?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

Because those are what Americans think they believe in, not what they actually believe in when push comes to shove. You overthrow an American-aligned tyrant and you're suddenly a terrorist, the wrong people wield guns and they're suddenly taken away (see: Black Panthers) and I'd certainly like someone to tell the prison-industrial complex about the liberty stuff. Americans like to call these "American values," but if you care at all about these values and take even a cursory look through America's history and at its modern states, the only logical conclusion is to hate America's guts. Therefore, being un-American or anti-American says nothing about one's disposition towards tyranny or liberty.

[-] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 points 1 week ago

Then let’s hope to end hypocrisy as well, because the publication in the source wants to oppress by disarmament.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 6 points 1 week ago

I'll let you know as soon as we actually overthrow our tyrants and establish liberty.

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