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[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

It’s called critical support. I can support both Iran’s self-defense from genocidal maniacs while simultaneously criticizing them for their human rights abuses. It’s something that people with a functioning brain can do - hold two ideas in their head at once.

Besides, Israel has killed more gay people in the last year just through sheer numbers of the people they’ve exterminated than Iran has ever.

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune 10 points 1 month ago
[-] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

There's a difference between carpet bombing an entire country (also not defensible) and deliberately removing gay people from your population using the legal system.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/1600962503-study-iran-tops-list-for-most-dangerous-destination-for-gay-travelers

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Yes, and carpet bombing is entirely more evil. Iran is the lesser of two evils here. Isn’t that what liberals said we should always strive for? The lesser of two evils?

[-] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Not lesser, just different. The two countries are very different and you can't really draw a sensible comparison. Additionally I would point out that Iran has been supplying weapons, money, and intelligence to Hamas and Hezbollah for years. Have Hamas been a good thing for Gaza?

But let's not forget Yemen. Vastly more people have died in the Yemeni civil war (100s of thousands of civilians) which was started by the houthis, who are an Iranian proxy. They also propped up Bashar al Assad, who used chemical weapons against the Syrian population. They also had a hand in the Sudanese civil war.

So yeah Iran hasn't directly been involved in genocide, but they've been encouraging and funding it for a good while. Not good guys.

[-] mathemachristian 3 points 1 month ago

How many gay people do you think the occupation regime of west Palestine has killed in their genocide?

[-] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Clearly many more. I'm not defending Israel at all. They're clearly war criminals. However they don't execute LGBT people in their own country which is the point of the meme. Iran is specifically trying to irradiate LGBTQ people in their own country. Iran is a theocratic dictatorship and is incapable of being the "good guy" with the current regime.

[-] mathemachristian 2 points 1 month ago

They do execute lgbt people though. And children and pregnant women, they're executing an entire population. A repressive dictatorship is still better than a genocidal one.

[-] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[-] mathemachristian 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

https://www.genocidewatch.com/israel

blobcat, think methinks this website is a USAID or NED project.

Gregory H. Stanton
Founding President and Chairman
Dr. Gregory H. Stanton is the founding president and chairman of Genocide Watch. From 2010 to 2019, he was a research professor in genocide studies and prevention at the School for Conflict Analysis and Resolution at George Mason University, Arlington, Virginia, USA.

blobcat, googly, think

Dr. Stanton served in the U.S. State Department (1992-1999)

blobcat, thinkglare

Before he joined the State Department, Dr. Stanton was a legal advisor to RUKH

one of the first opposition parties in Soviet Ukraine

blobcat, hyperthink

Hey I'm getting good at spotting these

lmfaooooooooooo https://www.genocidewatch.com/directors-and-advisors

Jesus

Major General William Nash
Former Commander, NATO Forces in Bosnia

they got the guys with hands-on experience huh?

[-] Liberteez@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Yes, functioning brains can experience cognitive dissonance

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It’s not cognitive dissonance if you’re deliberately holding the two ideas. It’s only cognitive dissonance when you try to keep their black and white thinking and can’t find any reconciliation between the two.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

something people with a functional brain

Okay but this is the internet, and im going to do strong readings of everything and also youre supposed to have all the same mental illness and knowledge as me.

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