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"living off the grid" is a privileged, spoiled white person idea. The amount of physical space and resources it takes to pull off requires you to be rich -- or having someone else pay for it (national forests etc).
We are communal, social beings. We band together for good reason. And going "out on your own" is literally impossible anyway -- you're taking the knowledge you gained living communally til now, plus books tools etc.
What nonsense. Preppers and survivalists are mostly right wing, it takes that level of self deceit to attempt.
Yeah there's lefty/hippy ones too, and I know a bit about some, was around and took part in partial attempts.
Don't get sick or break a bone!
Of course you couldn't resist blaming white people for this. Actually sad because I agree with the rest, but what do race have to do with that? such an American thing.
Have you ever been to the US? Do you know anything about our history? Race and class are so deeply intertwined in this country, it's going to take a lot more than some non-Americans mad on the internet, telling us to just quit bringing up race, to fix it.
And don't mistake this as excusing our deeply ingrained racism, I just tire of people who have never spent a day in the US thinking that if we just "stop talking about race" then all of our race issues will magically go away, when it's just not that simple.
White man bad
I don't think questioning racializing something as arbitrary as living off grid amounts to the same thing as "just stop talking about race." That's either really misunderstood or just a bad faith argument.
Poor people can't "live off the grid". Only people with money and privilege can do so, and in the US, such people are disproportionately white. I don't think I misunderstood anything or am acting in bad faith.
Ah, actually there are places where many people live like that. I know such places (one, namely republic of Artsakh, has become worse in the last couple of years due to partially being occupied by savage racist apes thinking it's inside their "territorial integrity").
It's just that this requires a set of skills most don't possess, having grown in big cities or places not too different from big cities for this purpose.
EDIT: About "level of decision" - nothing really prevents you from gaining the same. Just going to live "off the grid" with pretty much "on the grid" mindset is something leftists do more. Being prepared and having technical means to get to a doctor is important.
Thank you. I hate these comments implying that this is one hundred percent impossible or even that you need to be a rich person to accomplish it. I did it for a short time. But I went to town to get water and food, it's not like you need to have every single thing be completely self sustaining (you can, but it's not like it "doesn't count" if you go get something). It was uncomfortable and hard, but that also contributed to what made it so rewarding. It was one of the best times in my life.
It is stupid to try to live in the wild without knowing what you're doing though. The area I was in had good weather, close to a town etc. It wasn't at the top of a mountain or anything.