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[-] ptz@dubvee.org 110 points 5 days ago

Having been burned many times in the past, I won't even trust 40 GB to a Seagate drive let alone 40 TB.

Even in enterprise arrays where they're basically disposable when they fail, I'm still wary of them.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 51 points 5 days ago

Still, it's a good thing if it means energy savings at data centers.

For home and SMB use there's already a notable absence of backup and archival technologies to match available storage capacities. Developing one without the other seems short sighted.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 2 points 4 days ago

Eh hard drives are archival storage these days. They are DOG SLOW and loud. Any real time system like Nextcloud should probably be using ssds these days.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Hard drives are also relatively cheap and fast enough for many purposes. My PCs use SSDs for system drives but HDDs for some data drives, and my NAS will use hard drives until SSDs become more affordable.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

yeah i still use hard drives for storing movies, logs, and backups on my Nas cluster, but using it for nextcloud or remote game storage is too slow. I also live in an apartment and the scrubs are too loud. There's only a 5:1 price premium, so it's worth just going all flash unless you have like 30tb storage needs.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

My first seagate HD started clicking as I was moving data to it from my older drive just after I purchased it. This was way back in the 00s. In a panic, I started moving data back to my older hd (because I was moving jnstead of copying) and then THAT one started having issues also.

Turns out when I overclocked my CPU I had forgotten to lock the PCI bus, which resulted in an effective overclock of the HDD interfaces. It was ok until I tried moving mass amounts of data and the HDD tried to keep up instead of letting the buffer fill up and making the OS wait.

I reversed the OC and despite the HDDs getting so close to failure, both of them lasted for years after that without further issue.

[-] remon@ani.social 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I feel the exact same about WD drives and I'm quite happy since I switched to Seagate.

[-] suicidaleggroll@lemm.ee 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Don’t look at Backblaze drive reports then. WD is pretty much all good, Seagate has some good models that are comparable to WD, but they have some absolutely unforgivable ones as well.

Not every Seagate drive is bad, but nearly every chronically unreliable drive in their reports is a Seagate.

Personally, I’ve managed hundreds of drives in the last couple of decades. I won’t touch Seagate anymore due to their inconsistent reliability from model to model (and when it’s bad, it’s bad).

[-] remon@ani.social 11 points 5 days ago

Don’t look at Backblaze drive reports then

I have.

But after personally having suffered 4 complete disk failures of WD drives in less then 3 years, it's really more like a "fool me once" situation.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It used to be pertinent to check the color of WD drives. I can't remember all of them but of the top of my head I remember Blue dying the most. They used to have black, red and maybe a green model, now they have purple and gold as well. Each was designated for certain purposes / reliability.

Source: Used to be a certified Apple/Dell/HP repair tech, so I was replacing hard drives daily.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

Gold is the enterprise ones. Black is enthusiast, blue is desktop, red is NAS, purple is NVR, green is external. Green you almost certainly don't want (they do their own power management), red is likely to be SMR. But otherwise they're not too different. If you saw a lot of blues failing, it's probably because the systems you supported used blue almost exclusively.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I thought green was "eco." At least the higher-end external ones tend to be red drives, which is famously why people shuck them to use internally because they're often cheaper than just buying a red bare drive directly, for some reason.

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 days ago

Correct about the greens. They used to be (might still be) the ones that ran at a lower RPM

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

You might be right. Although I think it's been pretty hit or miss with which drives they use in those enclosures.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Same here. Been burned by SSD's too though - a Samsung Evo Pro drive crapped out on me just months after buying it. Was under warranty and replaced at no cost, but I still lost all my data and config/settings.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 19 points 5 days ago

Any disk can and will fail at some point in time. Backup is your best friend. Some sort of disk redundancy is your second best friend.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

It's always worth paying more for Western Digital.

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