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[-] dan00@lemm.ee 37 points 2 months ago

As usual i read too much into stupid shit. Yes, this is toxic masculinity just as much as punching someone in the face. But, like everything, context matters and I believe directing harm towards “bad” people is “good” (aka punching a nazi is good, even preferable). My granpa (a declared fash) would shield behind the “no violence” stand to support the most heinous shit and my point always has been that somebody need to shoot a nazi eventually. That guy would be “bad” for killing a person but we need those guys. At some point kindness doesn’t cut it anymore.

[-] nyamlae@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

But, like everything, context matters and I believe directing harm towards “bad” people is “good”

That's not what bodyshaming does, though.

If you punch or kill a nazi, that harms the nazi.

If you joke about nazis compensating for having a small dick, then you are reinforcing the idea that small dicks are bad and something that needs to be compensated for. This harms people with small penises.

In addition, lots of nazis will have average or big dicks, and will find this kind of post laughable and irrelevant. It's not even harming them.

So, this post mainly stigmatizes men with a certain body type, and not nazis. This is not good praxis.

[-] stratoscaster@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think that's the reason why these kinds of derogatory statements are made. It's because masculinity is the sole identity of the fascist (aside from nationalism). Obviously, if you have masculinity be your main ideology, you are a problematic person.

E.g. calling the proud boys "gravy seals" doesn't make me upset, because I don't care if I'm fat or not, and I don't really subscribe to machiavellianism. They, internally, do and being mocked is an affront to their ideology.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

calling the proud boys "gravy seals" doesn't make me upset

Good for you. However, there are people who were bullied for being larger than average their wholr live, and this shit reinforces the idea that being fat is something bad and should be mocked.

[-] SCmSTR 2 points 2 months ago

Or girls with a certain mouthfeel...

[-] dan00@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Idk man, not convinced. The whole thing about white supremacy and supremacy in general is being a proud big dick small brain alfa male who commands women.

If you attack them with “oh no your logical fallacies makes you look stupid (respectfully 🙏)” you will be a right, very kind and respectful inmate in cecot.

I don’t believe in these slurs, I don’t condone them and I 100% will support people who might be uncomfortable with them but I also hope they will understand supremacy is fought in the mud. It’s not pretty but at some point it’s all you have left.

[-] TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

praxis

See people with big dicks don't use words like that.

[-] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

There's a whole theological reflection by the German pastor and theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who participated in a tentative to kill Hitler. In a nutshell, he said that killing was always bad, but in some fringe cases, someone has to get their hands dirty.

He was killed by the Nazis after the failure of the killing attempt.

[-] SCmSTR 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The only good Nazi....

Is not a joke saying.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

Shit, that's a tough trolley problem...particularly if your grandpa is an ok guy otherwise and mostly harmless...maybe just lock him out of social media? :D

[-] dan00@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ehm… he is okay but it’s scary to think he never touched social media. My theory is that fascism is like a cigarette: very social, easy to start, feels good when you do it and your peers will think you look cool but it is also extremely addictive. The more you ingest and “make sense” of fascist propaganda, the more you develop habits to excuse violence and racism. At some point the only working meds are punches.

Note: you will soon realise that when you change tone with fash, they will immediately shit their pants and comply.

this post was submitted on 31 May 2025
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