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[-] sem 1 points 1 day ago

Disagree, it completely reads as a tweet supporting trump, and the "official response" that was later contracted by a more moderate official response definitely felt like a rant.

I've been watching Proton since then and they've very much backed away from the ceo's pro-Trump pro-Republican position, so I've continued to use their services, but mostly because I've already invested time and money into using them. But they lost my trust and I have not recommended them in the same way I used it before this happened.

[-] sudneo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

There is not a single comment either on reddit or elsewhere that shows love for Trump. Supporting a Trump's choice doesn't mean supporting Trump.

[-] sem 1 points 1 day ago

Supporting his choices and the Republican party at large is the problematic part. I don't care if he loves Trump or not.

"Here is our official response, also available on the Mastodon post in the screenshot: Corporate capture of Dems is real. In 2022, we campaigned extensively in the US for anti-trust legislation. Two bills were ready, with bipartisan support. Chuck Schumer (who coincidently has two daughters working as big tech lobbyists) refused to bring the bills fora vote. At a 2024 event covering antitrust remedies, out of all the invited senators, just a single one showed up JD Vance. By working on the front lines of many policy issues, we have seen the shift between Dems and Republicans over the past decade first hand. Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost. Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses."

[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 4 hours ago

Is that quote supposed to make us agree with you? Reads as quite reasonable to me

[-] sem 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It seems reasonable until the very end where they are supporting the fascist party., and it's not even accurate. Republicans are absolutely not regulating tech. At least Democrats had Lina Kahn, who the Republicans fired.

[-] sudneo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Supporting his choices and the Republican party at large is the problematic part. I don't care if he loves Trump or not.

He supported one choice, and for motivated reasons. You can disagree. It doesn't matter to me, but saying that republicans can do better than democrats in fighting big tech in the antitrust space doesn't make you a trump supporter. Especially when democrats shat their pants within this space.

Also I know you don't care, but the person I was responding to misrepresented the facts saying that he loves Trump.

So yeah, this opinion doesn't make anybody a fascist, a Nazi, a Trump lover etc. It's a totally legitimate critique of democrats actions, couple with an (unwarranted, in my opinion) optimistic take on republicans, in a specific context.

The fact that the american political debate is so toxic that even expressing this opinion is a problem is something to reflect on. Tons of people talking about democrats having faults (but republican being worse), but when someone points out actual things that historically Republicans did better than democrats (again, the very narrow context of antitrust vs big tech, which Republicans pushed because twitter, google etc. were mostly dem-leaning years ago) immediately the pitchforks are taken.

[-] sem 1 points 1 day ago

When one political party is conservative and the other one is literally authoritarian I have zero sympathy for anyone supporting them.

[-] sudneo@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago

If the authoritarian one does better than the conservative one in some regard, there should be the moral honesty to admit it and demand better. If it's not possible to do this, the political discourse is completely sterile, and there is no accountability for anybody. Which is exactly what the american political discourse looks like from outside. Italian politics is messed up, but I can't even imagine someone being attacked and labeled as a fascist/Meloni supporter for saying that Meloni government did one thing better than previous government or another party.

Also this whole thing happened before the government formed.

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