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You seem to equate any opinion on this topic that does not call for the dissolution of the state of Israel with zionism. And obviously, you regard zionism as something very negative (I'm not saying it isn't, I'm just trying to be comprehensive and therefore state something trivial, too). Ergo, you seem to regard the existence of the state of Israel as something negative. The logical solution to that is that you see the dissolution of the state of Israel as something desirable.
Now, keep in mind that the following does not have a say about anything regarding the situation in Gaza. As I stated elsewhere, there's a genocide happening against Palestinians, there's no denying that and anyone supporting that is just an asshole at least.
However, what do you think would happen to the Israeli that currently live in Israel? I'm not talking about West Bank "settlers" or other genocide tools, I'm talking about the majority of Israeli, the civilians, the jewish families who lived in Israel for generations now. They'd most likely be killed, displayed and all of that. And that's genocide, too.
Was creating the state of Israel a mistake when it happened? Probably. Would a single state where everyone lives together peacefully preferable? Definitely (and globally so, too). But is it possible to dissolve the state of Israel without a genocide against the jews there? Highly unlikely.
Hence you're arguing to answer genocide with genocide.
Also, I'm not going to get deeper into the argument. I never really wanted to get into this topic and I still just not want to get deeper into this cesspool. You made me though and therefore I'm blocking you now and I hope you're gonna be able to reflect on some stuff. Farewell.
Thank you for proving to everyone what kind of person you are, yeah you lost most of the respect you had with the implication you made in your first response and you lost the rest when you confirmed yourself as exactly the Zionist apologist we thought you were. Good riddance.
This is the same genocide apologia literally every single genocidal state has made.
Hell, every Apartheid state (not even genocidal) makes this same argument to justify apartheid.
You're not even evil in any original sense.
You're 'Evil, the classic flavor'
The same what happened to Germans living in Germany after WW2 or to white south Africans after the fall of apartheid - nothing. Apart from war criminals of course, these should be arrested, have just but swift trials and go to prisons for the rest of their lives.
The problem is he's framing it under the typical evil Zionist strawman that Israel not being a state implies violence when it doesn't and the majority of people saying it aren't implying that either. This is a blatant bad faith argument that has no substance or merit because he's trying to create a fake gotcha so he can claim his Zionist beliefs are correct.
It is an argument which can be easily exposed though.