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[-] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 months ago

I mean, you technically sort of are taking meth in a way, but that's because you need it since you react differently to it.

I mean, there's nothing wrong with someone with severe physical trauma being given fentanyl for example.

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

you technically sort of are taking meth in a way

You are 100% NOT taking meth when you take ADHD stims. The only thing linking the two is the core ingredient which is a methyl-5 molecule, which your body makes on its own.

The drug meth is a synthetic methyl-5 compound with a ton of other nasty crap in it that doesn't exist in ADHD medication.

Like I said, whoever says that is in the same group as the American cheese is almost plastic crowd.

[-] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 months ago

Dex_amphetamine_

Meth_amphetamine_

No, the thing linking the 2 is the amphetamine part. Which is the actual stimulant.

The drug meth is actually just methamphetamine - there's no "nasty crap" in it unless the person synthesizing it doesn't refine and purify it well, which is true of basically all chemistry.

A more apt comparison is a strong beer and wine - both technically different things, but both get you drink because of the alcohol ingredient in them. They're both alcoholic drinks.

Same with amphetamines - both are stimulants that have essentially the same effect. That's specifically why they both work in treating ADHD. The only significant difference is one is legal (with a prescription) and the other isn't, which of course means good luck getting it really pure and at the correct dosage. The only other difference is how fast acting / long lasting they are because of that tail molecule, but the part that has an actual effect on people is the amphetamine part.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

This is so inaccurate. Also there isn't "nasty crap" in methamphetamine. It is a pure drug. The way it's made can introduce impurities which make it shitty quality though, like shit from redneck labs.

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The way it's made can introduce impurities which make it shitty quality though, like shit from redneck labs.

Yes, hence the "nasty crap"

[-] socsa@piefed.social 10 points 2 months ago

dexamphetamine literally lacks the methyl group which gives "meth" it's name.

[-] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah but it has the "amphetamine" part that gives meth it's kick. And that's what most people think of when it comes to the drug - the effect it has on a standard person, not the chemical name (otherwise they'd be calling methylprednisolone "meth" too. And let's face it, the majority of the population doesn't know why it's nicknamed meth either).

On a legal scale, "amphetamines" are what's regulated, not methyl groups.

[-] PurplebeanZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

My meds are Methylphenidate so tbh I assumed they were a bit 'methy'

[-] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

There’s nothing wrong with anyone taking fentanyl for any reason. There’s nothing wrong with anyone taking any drug for any reason. The only issues are things like how, where, when, etc. Anyone opposed to the full and complete legalization of all drugs should be executed.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

There’s nothing wrong with anyone taking fentanyl for any reason.

Yes

There’s nothing wrong with anyone taking any drug for any reason.

Preach

The only issues are things like how, where, when, etc.

Absolutely

Anyone opposed to the full and complete legalization of all drugs should be executed.

Ohh. Oh no...

[-] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I know, sometimes I troll too hard. But it is reasonable to take such folks and send them to an island somewhere so they can hate freedom to themselves.

[-] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago

There's nothing morally wrong, but there's definitely something physically wrong with taking fentanyl when you don't need fentanyl, especially long term. Like just because someone is addicted doesn't mean they should stay addicted. I doubt you're advocating for alcoholics to remain alcoholic for example.

Also, I think you mean anyone against the usage of all drugs don't have a valid opinion, not the creation of all drugs (there's no good reason Krokodil should exist for example).

[-] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

This comment makes no sense. It’s like saying there’s something physically wrong with shoving bread up your ass. Who cares?

[-] SparroHawc@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm pretty sure your ass would care, depending on the kind of bread. A firm crusty bread would probably do some damage. Kinda like how too much fentanyl does damage. Physically.

[-] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

And yet it’s entirely irrelevant. It amazes me how stupid people get when you make even the most elementary observations about the world. Fear is your only god.

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