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[-] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 9 points 22 hours ago

Who could have predicted that constantly saying all men are trash could have negative impacts???

And to be clear in no way am excusing the behavior of people who respond in this fashion, but I can also understand how they ended up where they did.

I completely understand hating some people from any category of anything, but when you broadly blame ALL of a group you are absolutely going to alienate people who were either on your side or neutral. I think this is exactly what happened to a lot of guys. They were just sitting there minding. Their business and suddenly they are being told that they are inherently evil and shitty just because they are men. They hear it on the news and on social media. Pop culture takes a shit on them too once in awhile.

It doesn't exactly take a rocket scientist to see how this could end up twisting around in the minds of some of them.

I don't have the specific answers for how to combat this sort of stuff completely, but I think a good starting point would be to have more targeted criticisms as opposed to just going after an entire gender broadly. I think that has clearly done more damage for gender relations than it has helped anything so far.

Just my 2 cents as a guy who has seen some old friends who were once self proclaimed feminists now go full on into hating women. It's sad to see.

[-] VerticaGG 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

These networks end up functioning as recruitment hubs, where young people − especially boys − are lured in by edgy memes

it has everything to do with that ^

and nothing to do with "constantly" saying men are trash.

Seriously, is this ~~"man hating dyke"~~ "MiSANdRiSt trans woman" in the room with us right now?

The fuckin ratio of Online Rightwing Recruitment to Real Existing "all-men-are-are-trash-sayer" isnt even close.

You're getting angry at bots, rare arguments promoted to top of social feeds and/or State and non-state actor troll farms.

You're really trumping up your numbers to victim blame that hard.

(This is not an invitation to debate, Ima go live my life)

[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Sadly many of these tactics aren't new. And I don't have an idea on how to fix this. Say we ban social media. Hate groups were online before the internet was a thing. They will still find some way of community building. We could make it harder.

But at this point you have boys sone enthralled by tate they refuse to talk to female teachers. They didn't get that way just from TikTok. All the media they consume is just a gaint propaganda machine.

Even you isolate a kid from the internet their freinds are pulling them in.

[-] Impassionata@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

All men are trash.

I'm probably considered feminism-critical, I think feminism can't solve men's issues and people who believe feminism is for everyone are dipshits peddling propaganda.

All men are trash.

If you can't handle the fact that there's an inherent shittiness to masculinity which women experience directly and painfully, you're not a real man and should man up about it.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 16 points 21 hours ago

All people with blue eyes are trash. All curly haired people are trash. All women are trash. All brown skinned people are trash.

See how fucking stupid that statement is? I thought those of us with a brain learned that generalizing is fucking stupid. The others are bigots. Because generalizing an entire group of people with one common trait is what bigots do.

[-] Impassionata@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I am more willing to admit that it's possible to be racist against white people than I am willing to admit that "all men are trash" is somehow punching down.

I don't literally mean that every single man is a piece of trash, you know.

[-] mriormro@lemm.ee 11 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

No, I am not.

There is nothing inherent about how we live our lives or experience the world. The violence the more vulnerable class of folks experience is a direct result of just that: class inequality. You may as well believe in phrenology given the shit you're spewing.

Edit: jesus, even your post history shows you're just an ass.

[-] Impassionata@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Better an ass than a weak man.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

And here I was going to say "no one says 'all men are trash'", and yet here you are: A complete fucking idiot.

[-] Impassionata@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I've seen so many people say some variety of "all men are trash" or "kill all men", some of which in contexts where I do think it was offensive and counter-productive.

You're actively in denial about the deserved reputation problem feminism has if you seriously thought that no one ever says this.

[-] mattc@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, especially trans men! They suuuuck! Just kidding, men are the greatest. Nice poem, though. Great job.

[-] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 4 points 22 hours ago

What is the "inherent shittiness" that masculinity has that directly effects women painfully?

[-] Impassionata@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Found the man triggered by women who prefer the bear.

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 3 points 21 hours ago

Time for some class solidarity ?

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

We let you all vote and this is how you act. Jeez

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