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Ha! Sadly so often true
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Funny post, good point, but let's not pretend women never commit violent offences. 2022 had 18% of known perpetrators being female in the US.
Edit: For the rage blind morons in the comments, this is specifically directed at the asinine comment in the OP saying "From Who?" As if they've made a slam dunk point or something.
It's not a counter example, it's a statistic. Puting your fingers in your ears and going "Nuh uh Nuh uh I can't hear your" doesn't help anyone
It doesn't matter. Women don't need men to protect us from women. We can solve our own problems if misogyny gets out of the way
I want to agree with that post, as it's (generally) a point that bears repeating, but it's too close to a catch 22 that it undermines the point
I like that one.
Sorry but a black v neck is an awful choice.
Man, this post has described the entire way I think, about anything.
Fun fact: In a society of all women, women would suddenly be the known perpetrators of 100% of all violent offences!
I'm reading this as crime rates would be reduced by 82%. Not 100%, but that's pretty damn good. And given that women are more likely to attack people they know, discord amoung your friend group or family would be more dangerous than walking in public.
That’s already true. Stranger danger is a complete media fabrication.
It also makes me curious what percentage of that 18% was directed towards men as opposed to women. All that would be left in this hypothetical is women-on-women violence, so anything else should be discounted for a fair comparison.
You see how that's still bad right? I'm saying let's not just ignore ANY of these statistics and y'all are trying to do gymnastics to make a dumb meme more rational.
Can we talk about the 82% first? Sounds more important in the moment
Yeah, exactly - that's what I mean. Hypothetically, if 50% of the violence done by women involves men, then the 82% is really more like 91%, and the violence attributed to women starts to look more and more like a rounding error. This meme is getting more rational all the time. It's almost like bringing statistics into it does nothing but present a lame fig leaf to cover up the underlying, endemic problem that inspired the meme in the first place.
Plus how many adult women murder adult men? It's rare, and women being murdered by men is far more likely
Alright then you're just here to meme and not actually talk about real problems.
Perfect is the enemy of good. In the real world we celebrate drops by like 1%. Disregarding *every *other issue with this hypothetical situation, a drop by 82% would be oh so incredibly world changing.
You aren't wrong because violence is violence no matter the offender, but by bringing "whataboutism" in, you are arguably demonstrating bad faith right off the bat starting your discussion. At this point, if you are serious about wanting to tangent and discuss about solving the last 18%, maybe take it to its own thread? Like over to showerthoughts or asklemmy? I do think that's always worth discussing, as is discussing how to solve the original 82% without the nuclear option. :)
Finally, this community is kind of memey. Let the witches cook.
For the record it's not 82%, 5% of the whole is listed as "Unknown".
The entire point of my comment is the asinine comment IN the OP saying "from who?"
So you're saying we could cut violent crime by roughly 80% if we were rid of men? Neat
Women also are more involved in the sexual assault of children than most people realize, but they are extremely underreported (due to patriarchal biases in our society, largely). Men still commit more offenses, but patriarchy is a double-edged sword in that it causes more women to be victimized and also protects female perpetrators of violence from punishment.
That said, men still commit much more violent crime and we should do better as a society to prevent that through social programs, education, etc.
If the cause of most crime is related to the perception of a resource's scarcity, we should: a. Identify what resource is scarce in the lives of men. b. Cause men's perception of the resource's scarcity to change, which does not necessarily mean restoring or replacing the resource.
I read it as the crimes being a resource lol.
It's all going to boil down to the patriarchy, which ties back to systems of control. The "loneliness epidemic" is entirely self inflicted
Oh no. Get the men back, because women can't run a society?
Did I say that? No. I said let's not ignore real numbers. 18% is not an insignificant amount of violent crime
This whole chain of thought relies on assumptions and this is where it needs to be exited?
Source? That’s higher than I would have guessed, honestly.