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It’s ridiculous how it has improved literally everything.
Like I’m a hardcore fuck cars person. I mean I used to mod that subreddit until the blackouts, I helped popularise the fuck cars movement, and even I didn’t expect this to be such a success.
Except for "visitors to the zone", they literally only measured the things that could be positive. There was no world where congestion pricing was going to increase number of cars. Actually yellow taxis are up, which they portrayed as "green" but I think most people would argue is actually "red" - i.e. we want to lower the number of taxis (and rideshare).
The controversial questions: restaurants/businesses, effect on low-income commuters, are all in the "Too soon to say" category. They're not even measuring the all-encompassing commute-time question which is "average commute time for all commuters", not "average commute time for X category". It's entirely possible that commute times for both cars and transit could go down while the commute time for an average person goes up because more people are being pushed to longer-time commutes.
Neat! Got any tips?
Not sure this is helpful, but:
My main issue with the reddit fuckcars is that there was wayyy to much like low quality complaining posts that got big but no one was posting the statistics and academic side of things which I think is just as interesting and convincing. So I did a couple things to try and encourage more people to post that.
On the other hand, that doesn’t seem to be a problem on lemmy, since we’re all nerds…
In my political activism and messaging though, what I did realise was it was helpful to be more vocal about accessibility for disabled people. The disabled people I talked to kind of felt like pawns in the “car debate”. Like the pro-cars people woulf use disabled people as an argument to keep cars but offer no alternative to disabled people who can’t drive. While fuck-cars allies often use disabled people who can’t drive as an argument but fail to properly fight for accessibility in urbanism. (Like seem to idealise european planning which if often terrible for disabled people — lots of stairs without ramps, many trams/trains arent wheelchair accessible, disabled people who can only move by car fail to access things on pedestrianised streets because there is no disability exception/parking nearby.)
Anyways. I found I was able to get quite a bit of a following of people who typically don’t like the fuck cars movement on microblogging platforms by being fuck cars, without alienating an entire demographic of people by not considering their needs seriously.