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The other day I switched Linux distros, wiped disk, and somehow realised that OMEMO is a weird freaky thing and now I cannot see any message from my computer, even though I have everything visible on my Conversations Android app.

I don't want to get angry again, but... yeah, this is terrible, terrible UX. Seems like OMEMO somehow encrypts for each device differently, and now all messages are "locked". Which is weird, because messages are still there, just "locked".

Can I somehow import a backup from my Android app? Is there anything that can be done? My guess is that, probably not, otherwise I would have gotten a popup or something in the login process, "would you like to sync your messages?", but nothing happened.

XMPP supremacists, please! Give me a solution! I was organizing important projects with multiple people. Getting locked out of all that information is terrible.

Otherwise, then I really feel I can see XMPP disappearing now... and for a very good reason.

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[-] glitching@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

it's a super-shitty experience, both on XMPP and Matrix, and you touched only on one of the aspects. and that's not even the bad part. the bad part is nothing better is on the horizon.

so what you gotta do is put on your big boy pants, sit down and figure this shit out. here's where I made I misstep, let's figure out how to do redundant backups and seamless restore accross devices. etc.

because, this is it. there is nothing better coming, you gotta learn how to make do with the tech we have. offloading your shit to benevolent dictators and hoping everything will be fine is not a strategy,

[-] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Actually, I've tried DeltaChat, and it does seem to do everything right. It still needs some features, but it's advancing fast and it's already pretty usable, and device sync is amazing.

In terms of Matrix, yeah it's not the best experience right now, but I guess it can still be fixable. XMPP has just too much technical debt and fragmentation, it seems.

[-] glitching@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I run all three of those (delta on hosted IMAP servers, matrix synapse, prosody for XMPP) for various clients and each has its own issues that need work. with deltachat there is no fallback if the project stops or gets taken over or whatever. with XMPP at least you have options, this client, that client, etc. as well as decades long development. based on that, some free advice (worth what you paid for it) - don't give up on XMPP just yet. good luck.

[-] msage@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

You can decrypt old messages on Matrix, in some cases.

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