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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29824159

Bernie Sanders May 08, 2025

[based on speech given to US Senate]

"Thursday marks 68 days and counting since ANY humanitarian aid was allowed into Gaza. For more than nine weeks, Israel has blocked all supplies: no food, no water, no medicine, and no fuel.

Hundreds of truckloads of lifesaving supplies are waiting to enter Gaza, sitting just across the border, but are denied entry by Israeli authorities.

... Defense Minister Israel Katz said, “Israel’s policy is clear: No humanitarian aid will enter Gaza, and blocking this aid is one of the main pressure levers.” "

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[-] thisnameisnottolong@aussie.zone 15 points 1 month ago

I didn't realise China was providing arms to Israel. Because if they were, like they are providing arms to Russia, then they would be being at harped on, as they are. But there is one cuntry in particular that is enabling genocidal Israeli monsters. The US of fuckwitt A. Fuck Trump, Genocide Joe and every American who has allowed and continues to allow this heinous crime against humanity. You are the worst version of yourselves yet.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 4 points 1 month ago

I don’t see Australia providing aid. Or even offering. Everyone wants to point a finger but the entire human race seems to not give a shit. Yeah, the largest arms manufacturer in the world provides arms to a lot of places, and that should stop being an export. The whole world should stop making guns.

And yeah we are a shitty version, and we are going to learn the hard way real soon.

[-] thisnameisnottolong@aussie.zone 9 points 1 month ago

No one can provide aid to Gaza unless Israel allow it. They will not. USA has vetoed all attempts to force a ceasefire through the UN, against the desires of almost every other country on the planet. The fingers are pointing for good reason. There is no indication Americans will learn anything. Except maybe how to live your best life under fascism. It must be frustrating. Australia is doing better, but not much. Our spineless leader still labels Israel as "a friend".

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

Has anyone tried? A big convoy full of supplies and white flags? Just enter through Rafah and bypass Israel. Heck the beach is pretty big.

But it’s gonna be hard to find a country who likes Muslims enough.

[-] thisnameisnottolong@aussie.zone 9 points 1 month ago

You should try reading up on the aid efforts that have been made.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago

Do you think that hasn't been tried yet?

Israel has shot, bombed, and attacked those flying white flags (including their own citizens), the red cross, medics, hospitals, those with press badges and identification, the un, and most recently an aid ship in the Mediterranean.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 1 month ago

They got what they wanted. They derailed the thread and made it about themselves, rather than the actual victims of genocide the post referenced.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

I'm still waiting for/half expecting them to soon say Israel is doing nothing wrong its everyone else's fault

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago

Maybe. Either way, they seem genuinely distressed like the emotions have mastered them, rather than the other way around and I get that because I've been there. I see it a lot on Lemmy and IRL. Sometimes we just need to get away from media and people, spend time being still, silencing the chaos, doing some deep self-Reflexion, and doing whatever real self-care (rather than distraction /doom scrolling) is within our means. Can you imagine if a few heads of state did that for a weekend?! We'd be closer to world peace than we've been in a century.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

Seems like a break didnt help them.

Definitely going hard on doom scrolling and everyone is out against me

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

Clearly they need to stream it live.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago
[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

This is a lady in a wig talking. This is not an armada of ships announcing their plans in advance, showing up while streaming video, and proving that they cannot get to shore.

Frankly, I doubt a good number of these attempts. Put it on Netflix and you’ll roll right in untouched.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

Israel would just say the aid is either hamas or those providing it are hamas, as they've done the entire time.

https://press.un.org/en/2025/sc16023.doc.htm

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg300jek94zo

If this is all news/surprising to you I'd recommend doing research before saying the usa is faultless

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

It’s amazing how people can just fabricate entire concepts on lemmy. The idea that I think the USA is faultless cannot be found anywhere in my history. Sure, you could read a sentence and hallucinate that it means something else—but you’re aware of what you’re doing. Do you use that tactic to make me feel bad? Because it just makes me feel sad for you. It must be some kind of psychosis?

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

Literally every country on earth is doing nothing. Where is your precious China, ML? Why don’t you harp about that? Oh right, it’s because you don’t actually care about Gaza or genocide.

You cant see how that reads as stop being mean tk the usa, they arent doing anything wrong?

Also way to again distract from the genocide and blocking of aid...

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

I’m just criticizing China because they are ML. And they don’t care about genocide when it doesn’t make the US look bad.

It’s not a distraction, it’s a direct comment to OP.

It probably would have been good to address them by name to avoid confusion.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

See that still looks like trying to avoid admitting usa is helping Israel commit a genocide.

While also ignoring all evidence specifically in a thread about how the usa is supporting the genocide.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

The US is complicit. For sure. But people who simp for China and want half of the world to be reduced to rubble in its own perfectly acceptable western genocide are disgusting and hypocritical.

It’s perfectly fine to discuss this in this thread, as it is relevant to the broader topic. Have you always stayed on topic? (Checks) nope. You just want to shut me down.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

Yes how dare people point out hypocrisy.

How dare people not want their country to continue to bomb children.

perfectly acceptable western genocide are disgusting and hypocritical.

Ah so its not at all about whats happening and is just a scenario you've come up with. I see there's really no point continuing when this is all just for you to complain as others have deduced.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

I guess that’s one was to interpret the statement. I dislike anyone dying. Can you say the same?

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

Of course i hate people dying.

Which again makes it odd you've been so focused on getting attention away from those doing the killing

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

China frequently criticizes Israel, and has flown aid directly into Palestine. They’re a non-interventionalist nation, and have their own issues to work through, especially with the trade war ramping up and risks of a potential hot war. You want them to get themselves cut off from the global economy by attacking Israel or something?

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

No I think the EU should do it, as they are part of NATO. That’s the message that needs to be sent. Which I think won’t ever happen.

You might wanna check for a source on that though. While China has supplied aid in the form of money and supplies which have reached Gaza through Egypt (Rafah crossing). They have not landed a plane or airdropped anything into Gaza or the broader Palestine areas. There were a few social media claims, but they aren’t real.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

So you'd rather have EU declare war on the usa?

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

That would be hilarious. But the US is doing nothing but supplying weapons and pretending not to hear the screams.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

Only took 3 days for you to acknowledge how much the usa is doing

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I haven’t ever changed my mind, you just prefer specific language that blames it all on the US, which is inaccurate. You have proven many times that you don’t care at all about genocide if it can’t be used as a weapon against the US.

You’re gonna run out of alts. 🚫

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

The fact you think everyone who is against you is an alt says everything.

You have proven many times that you don’t care at all about genocide if it can’t be used as a weapon against the US.

Would love to see that cited

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

You’re right, I was confusing it with them flying aid into Lebanon, the aid they’ve given to Palestine has been through Egypts crossing.

[-] rasakaf679@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Why won't the muslim majority country provide aid? And take in refugees? Why only US is blamed for it?

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

That’s a good question. Why won’t they? Where is Britain? They owned (stolen) the land before it was given to Israel. Maybe take it back.

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