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Ugh us Americans from the USA don’t seem to understand how arrogant it is to say he’s the first American pope. Argentina is in South America. This guy is the first North American pope, or better yet the first pope from the United States. This is going to bug the shit out of me.
Edit: Because I’m genuinely loving the downvotes (you really felt it when I called you arrogant, huh), if the next US president was from North Dakota, we wouldn’t say they were the first president from Dakota, would we?
I fully get the criticism, but US Americans are the only ones that identify, and are broadly known as "Americans," so it just feels pedantic to me.
It’s definitely pedantic, but I’ve had more than one friend from countries in Central and South America comment on it, so it’s not just me noticing.
Pedants have pedant friends? Not trying to be an ass, but it just seems like such a meaningless distinction to make... Why is it worth it?
Because American cultural imperialism sucks for lots of reasons, and it's worth pushing back against it
It's literally part of the name and the most sensible shorthand, by which virtually no one is confused.
But fight your fight, I guess.
Interesting that you chose to identify your friends as “from countries in central in South America “instead of just calling them, Americans.
Not really since their continent of origin is directly relevant to the discussion of the scope of the term 'American'.
And he's the first US-ian Pope because of his birth.
But his career was in Peru.
Yeah, he's the first Pope from the States, is closer to the phrase that should be used.
What states? There are lots of states in the world.
‘The States’ is a common nickname for the USA, but you’re right, it isn’t ideal for the same reasons as American.
CHICAGOAN POPE! FUCK YEAH!
And I was going to add that caveat that even what I was saying could be wrong. But usually "the states" can only mean one place.
I mean… I don’t disagree, but no other nation put “America” in their name. “United” and “States” are even more generic. Heck, "United States" isn’t even distinctive.