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Which ones? Not encountered that except for maps.
At least Graphene does auto-updates of the system and basic apps just fine, and when it comes to installed apps - you can use F-Droid, Obtainium and other methods that can do it as well.
Yeah, those are often blocked off indeed. Although this depends too - for example, in my country all the major banks aside from one don't require Google services, primarily to accommodate Huawei and other Chinaphones that come without Google services. Find My Phone - indeed, although there might still be workarounds, just not looked at that.
Thing is - you have CHOICE in what third party to trust. And a lot of such choices are indeed more trustworthy than Google judging by prior history. You can eliminate middlemen, such as getting apps directly from the devs' repos rather than from F-Droid. Oftentimes you can avoid a third-party entirely, as a lot of things are selfhostable.
That's not the same argument as you made previously - "De-googled projects get none of the benefit of being android, while all of the downfall of being android". Removing Google does still leave a convenient daily driver - whether it's suitable universally is another question.
uG fixes most compatibility issues anyway -- I no longer have issues with bank apps.
What's uG? MicroG?
Big agree from me. You just forgot to take my pathological laziness & procrastination into account.
At least this way I have the option. With apple its the walled garden. What other choices are out there? (not including dumb phones)
Edit: punctuation
I guess the other option would be Linux like PostmarketOS, but it's not yet ready to be a botherless daily-driver for a non-enthusiasts, from what I've read.