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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/37022405

This is a carrier in the USA (T-Mobile).

I did a quick search for the other 2 carriers using the term "[Carrier Name] Family Tracking" and Verizon and AT&T also seems to have it.

And according to https://www.t-mobile.com/support/plans-features/t-mobile-familywhere-app, it says:

FamilyWhere uses geolocation data from the T-Mobile network and is not affected by changes to device location settings.

So it appears that its using cell tower triangulation. Turning on Airplane Mode should stop it (assuming there isn't a separate tracking app on your phone)

Oh Wow, What a wonderful tool for abusive spouses and abusive parents. And telecom companies are making money off of it. 🙃

TLDR: Its a good idea to get your own separate cellular plan.

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[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 72 points 2 days ago

This is a useful feature. If you are in an abusive household, then yes you should have as much financial separation as possible. For those that are in a happy and functional family with kids that you want to allow freedom for, this provides a measure of safety if you need it for potential emergency's or if they aren't answering the phone or whatever.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

Unpopular opinion: Your kids do not actually have freedom if you're tracking them.
Even if it is "just for emergencies" and "we don't actually look at it".
I enjoyed a completely untracked childhood, and I will make damn sure my kids can have that too.
Just knowing that your parents trust you is a priceless feeling.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago

Unpopular opinion: Your kids do not actually have freedom if you’re tracking them.

This is just false, and your definition of 'freedom' is nothing but sophistry.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 20 hours ago

It can't be false, since it is not a statement of an objective fact.
It is my opinion, based on my personal view of what "freedom" means to me.

[-] tiramichu@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

If you are in a healthy relationship, you can do this voluntarily and for free using functionality built into the OS or third party apps, without paying your network operator $10/mo

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Agreed. My wife and I are both on iOS so there is no need for this feature. Our daughter when she is old enough for a cellphone, would be the one I'd use this for since she can't turn it off.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 29 points 2 days ago

then yes you should have as much financial separation as possible.

Yeah that's a thing people in abusive households frequently have.

[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago

This is a problem even without this. The account owner can get lists of all outbound calls of their victim's line if they share a plan.

The fcc requires some remediation if a domestic abuse order is submitted but obviously that's at the far end of the abuse cycle.

The issue here can be traced all the way to phone companies pushing the very concept of family plans because it makes churn more difficult.

An abuser can shut off their victim's phone line on a whim with convenient online interfaces.

Phone companies don't treat their customers will respect because their is no requirement. No one of adult age should be subjected to any of these controls simply because someone else pays.

The health industry has rules around this. The moment a child hits 18, their claims disappear and the parent loses access to medical records.

There is absolutely no reason phones should not have the same restrictions but the industry lacks the will and will until the fcc or other three letter agency forces the issue.

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