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"Why AI Images Suck" (Art by Flu Hartberg)
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Everything about this is wrong and just reactionary garbage.
There is plenty to hate about AI and how it is being implemented, but "stealing" is not what is going on.
Particularly hollow are comments about low quality as shitty artists getting paid for less over competent artists has been going on forever.
This is definitely hate the players and not the game scenario. There is no reason for a company to let go of an artist because of AI. This is a shitty decision made by garbage players.
The reason they do this has almost nothing to do with the technology itself. As I commented before companies have always raced to the bottom when it comes to paying artists. This is clearly a cultural problem.
A lot of images ingested while training AI have been taken without permission. Most obvious is the recent flux of studio ghibli style art, which openAI has admitted to using without permission.
Art is iterative so the concept that you need permission to use a style is ridiculous. Certainly Studio Ghibli did not invent that art style.
As I was saying "stealing" is bullshit because you are not depriving the originator of anything. What you are talking about is copyright infringement.
Personally I detest the whole concept of imaginary property. So your not going to convince me AI is bad because of it.
This is such a sovereign citizen tier argument. "Officer, I wasn't driving, I was travelling."
"In law, "stealing" generally refers to the act of taking someone else's property without their consent and with the intent to permanently deprive them of it. "
Clearly you are full of it. That is why copyright is a civil and not criminal matter.
https://www.rutgers.edu/news/when-stealing-isnt-stealing-theft-law-21st-century
At any rate, I get it. You are probably some corporate bootlicker who thinks copyright protects the artist.
Imagine thinking you aren't a corporate bootlicker when you defend AI.
Please read my original post. There are plenty of good reasons to hate AI. You want to talk about them?
AI harvesting the work of others without permission and without compensation for profit is a good reason to hate AI.
Let's end I.P. law and burn down the datacenters. Since you hate I.P. so much, I assume this is the easiest offer in the world to you.
Oh please, if that was the truth then AI proves it wouldn't happen. After all they have pretty much violated the copyright of every artist on earth without so much as a slap on the wrist.
I get it, you don't like AI. I don't like how we are using these Large Language Models speculations to create a boom/bust economic cycle. This isn't even the worst of it as it is also being used by authoritarian governments to target people. To top it off it is just a general buzz word businesses are using to rip off consumers.
There are a lot more negative things as well. What OP is upset about though is a problem with business in general. If you are going to hate on AI at least hate it for real reasons.
Peter Thiel, and his incestuous coven of vampires, have funded this machine's creation to replace newspaper comic artists. Do you disagree? That's what it did.
Or, do you think I don't also have criticisms of capitalism.
Yes, I do disagree. As I pointed out this is the result of working for a shitty corporation.
Are all newspapers firing all artists? No, not at all.
There are great reasons not to like AI. Violations to copyright and bad business practices using at as an excuse to lay off staff are not the reasons. It is a red hearing.
I don't know what you think of capitalism. You could let me know if you like.
Yes, of course, what we need are good billionaires.
Anyone can choose not to fire a gun---I don't want the gun in the room. If you want the gun for other reasons, then build it to fire blanks.
Is this at all because: 1) it is wildly unpopular, 2) it is, for now, kind of shit at its job.