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Seattle Sets the Stage for Automatic Traffic Camera Expansion - The Urbanist
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Cops and ICE are just going to use this to surveil citizens unjustly (arguably against their 4th amendment right).
I hadn't even thought of that aspect of this. Fuck
Traffic cameras are revenue generators for police departments. Better road infrastructure is the way to make the roads safer. Traffic calming makes cars drive safer without requiring enforcement.
A penny to the PD is a penny too much. Speed bumps are better.
Hello! The consequence for going too fast over a speed bump is you get jostled around a bit and you decide how much of that you can tolerate. The consequence of running a red light can either be nothing or a collision. Red light cameras add an incentive for you to avoid a potential collision. We can have speed bumps and cameras :)
Would you feel better if 100% of the revenue collected from red light infractions went back to better road infrastructure?
There are better forms of traffic calming than speed bumps. Building an overly wide and smooth high speed road and then putting a speed bump in the middle of it is the kind of stupidity that typifies american road infrastructure. Rough, narrow, and curved mixed use streets causes traffic to drive slowly. Traffic cameras and school zones only exist because american roads are intentionally designed to be dangerous.
Money raised from road fines and tolls should go to public transport, like busses, and light rail.
Oh you won’t find much disagreement from me there, and you clearly care deeply. What we have in our infrastructure is hard to change and so despite better alternatives, we have to look at what options are available and cost effective. For that reason, red light cameras and speed bumps are appropriate solutions in an Americanized roadway until we figure out to fund and deploy the big boys you really want. After all, Americans understand punishment way better than they do public transport!
You must like driving 25 MPH?
The city is turning into a giant residential neighborhood. Speed bumps everywhere, no turn on red signs, and now speed trap cameras. They really hate cars.
But tbf a large chunk of Seattle is residential
I'm in support of speed bumps and no turn on red signal. As a pedestrian, cars (and bikes!) are dangerous.
Cameras suck though. Fuck cameras.
The city residents are also seemingly forgetting about safety. In the past six months there's been a car accident on the intersection right by my building about every month from somebody running a red light and colliding.
Cameras have their privacy considerations but I'm getting concerned about my safety as a pedestrian.
Nah, they don't really help with that much actually. People don't usually really run reds onpurpose, and people who usually run reds are not noticing that the light is red for one reason or another. And most people are just trying to strech a yellow light most of the time, which is safer than not in a lot of cases.