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So if you got one before he went crazy, you’re dead. I don’t think we should be killing the consumer. Teasing relentlessly, sure.
The consumers and non-voters are responsible for Trump though. They're just as guilty as their fat orange cult leader.
That's an unhinged stance. People that bought a car without knowing what Elon was or would become are not morally responsible for enabling him. Intent matters. Most of them, im sure, just wanted an electric vehicle... the end. They do not deserve to be punished for Musk and Trump's evils.
Even if that's the case it doesn't matter, because Musk and Trump's policy is the USA's policy even if some Americans voted for Harris. And with the USA now our sworn enemy from this point on we shouldn't have to bother with the nuance of distinguishing the "good" Americans from the bad ones. We didn't distinguish "good" Germans from bad Germans during WWII, and we don't distinguish "good" Russians from bad Russians. Same applies here.
Yes, the fuck we did.
Yes the fuck we do.
This is the mentality that leads to war crimes.
We ABSOLUTELY fucking do distinguish
Proof: The Nuremberg Trials
I have a bumper sticker that says, “Have the day you voted for,” so I’m like half in your court. But the real enemy are the MAGAs.
Want!
Etsy has a bunch of them
This is the one I got
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1880954911/
Killing people for how they vote is killing democracy. Those MAGA lunatics aren't your enemy, they're your fellow citizens who fell victim to radical propaganda. When the Trump regime finishes their coup, they're going to be suffering just like the rest of us.
The way to solve the problem is to win them over, and show that a dictatorship is not good for America. Attacking Tesla and Musk is how you prevent other billionaires from supporting the MAGA hate cult, but it's not how you win over MAGA voters. Taking it to the logical extreme by killing people isn't going to make it work either.
I don't know how to win all the MAGA people back, but I know violence won't do it. If anything, it'll cement their existing views.
"Those MAGA lunatics aren’t your enemy, they’re your fellow citizens who fell victim to radical propaganda." I live in Canada, they're not "my" citizens. And as for not knowing how to win all the MAGA people back without violence, you simply can't.
Not a single person who split from the MAGA cult did so by being convinced by their fellow citizens. Not one. It is their decision and theirs alone. They would have to be personally impacted by the consequences of Trump's policies in order to see the error of their ways. But even then those are very rare cases.
Let's look at the numbers. 62 million Americans voted for Trump in 2016, followed by 74 million in 2020 and 77 million last year. It only goes to show that the cult is growing in popularity. Again, you can't win over these people with words. They can and most certainly will resort to murder and violence when backed into a corner. Fascism and violence are inseparable. And violent resistance to fascist violence doesn't make you as bad as the fascist. Ask Bomber Harris.