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[-] Grimel@lemm.ee 18 points 6 days ago

Ah yes, get rid of extremism with different extremism. I think we've been there already. Spoiler: Didnt work.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago

First, a societal organization outside the Western norm has no bearing on if it will be successful or not. The "middle" has no superior intrinsic characteristics.

Second, we know Socialism works, the PRC is now becoming the de facto world power as the US falls, all while providing dramatic improvements for its people and increasing levels of satisfaction.

What, specifically, doesn't work?

[-] Grimel@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago

Well, first, as far as i know China is known to miss report its economical report. But even if that would not be the case.

Human rights dont work there. https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/china

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago

Human Rights are overall good in China, and improving steadily.

HRW has ties to the US government, is a revolving door, and refuses to critique US foreign policy.

[-] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago

Funny that you link the BBC, given their historical willingness to lie on the subject and continue to report the ludicrous 10,000 dead at Tian'anmen figure that was the sole claim of a British diplomat that fled the square before the PLA arrived, and later was confirmed to have been a fabrication. Hundreds died that day, maybe low thousands, not 10,000, yet the BBC both knows that and reports otherwise. BBC also got caught doctoring images to make China seem "depressing" that they swapped back after getting called out.

Either way, Zenz is a known liar, works for the "Victims of Communism" propaganda outlet, and was commisioned by the BBC to fight China, which he believes is the "Anti-Christ." Moreover, he misrepresents numbers, such as 8% new IUD rates as 80% new IUD rates, to give an idea of forced steralization that doesn't exist. As for XPF? Check out https://this-person-does-not-exist.com/en, then the glasses picture, https://www.xinjiangpolicefiles.org/wp-content/uploads/dt_imgs/20180515184435950_653121197306.jpg, pretty damning. BBC recieved these photos straight from Zenz, a known liar. We know there are camps, either way, but Zenz is a serial liar and you trust him, why?

[-] ursakhiin@beehaw.org 3 points 5 days ago

That first chart isn't even trying to hide that is fake. It's depicting a perfect mirroring.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago
[-] ursakhiin@beehaw.org 2 points 5 days ago

Conveniently, clicking through to the actual data returns a 404.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago

Pretty odd, considering it's the official Pew Research website, but the findings are not out of consistency with similar polls on approval for the government and the continuous improvements in purchasing power for the working class.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago

As if intensity is what makes ideologies bad. 🙄

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