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[-] randomaccount43543@lemmy.world 169 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Guys, if you don’t like these proposals from Google, you need to switch to Firefox now! It’s the only way to defend freedom on the web!

[-] Nevoic@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

Over 85% of Mozilla's income comes from their Google search deal. Google is keeping Mozilla alive to prevent antitrust issues. If Mozilla rocks the boat too much, Google will fund a more obedient alternative.

[-] Goodie@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago

So your answer to "Google is evil use another browser" is... if we all swap to Firefox google will kill it?

Google is keeping Firefox alive because 5% of all web users using Google search by default is pretty useful for them.

If you want to avoid that, simply use firefox and set your search to DuckDuckGo/Bing. If Google drops them, Microsoft have already shown a want to step up into that position.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

All good advice, but nevoic makes a good point. Google is too big to be meaningfully threatened by Mozilla, if firefox pulls a critical mass away from google, they will absolutely move to kill it.

Google needs to be broken up, and the US govt isn't going to just volunteer to do that on their own given how valuable google's data is to the intelligence agencies.

[-] Goodie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Google is already moving to kill Mozilla. Its just a matter of it we let it go quietly into the night.

[-] mrmanager@lemmy.today 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

About 5 years too late but appriciated still.

People just don't listen or care. They click on chrome because it's recommended by their daddy Google.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Why are you pushing Firefox when Vivaldi did the work of writing this article and Vivaldi has consistently been pro-user, pro privacy, and anti-google even while using Chromium as their backbone. Viva Vivaldi.

[-] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

Using any chromium fork is supporting chromium as the default browser, and choosing gecko-based browsers means you throw your hat in the ring to show websites that not just chromium browsers visit them. Using a chromium fork also means you accept that google will dictate standards less harmful than web integrity. While it's not the end of the world, the last time this happened IE9 happened. Using Firefox means google can't simply decide to implement any spec they want and that spec becomes true because all user agents have it (exactly what is at risk of happening here. Vivaldi may make nice blog posts but if this ends up happening they'll be happy to implement it else risk losing their entire user base)

The would have been an argument to be made about performance but nowadays blink and gecko are pretty much at the same performance level.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 0 points 1 year ago

Using a chromium fork also means you accept that google will dictate standards less harmful than web integrity.

Are these condescending statements how you intend to get people to switch to Firefox?

[-] SkyeStarfall 30 points 1 year ago
[-] MetaCubed@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Death to chromium forked browsers. Vivaldi is chromium.

[-] pfannkuchen_gesicht@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

Because it's better to support a diversity of web render engines instead to avoid a situation like back in the days with IE.

[-] Bootheal0179@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I have used Vivaldi and even led my kid to use it, but I still always go back to Firefox and/or LibreWolf for peace of mind and extensions like uBlock Origin and Anesidora.

[-] derpbot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Firefox has officially stated their position on this https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852

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