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[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 41 points 3 months ago

At this point I'm not sure if they are tankies, or whether they've just been called tankies by people who call all leftists tankies.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 months ago

Anyone who calls out western evil and lies is a tankie.

[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 months ago

Good to know, I totally thought it was a pejorative term for people who supported Kruschev's use of tanks, and I rarely see people talking about that so I was very confused.

Note: this comment is dripping with sarcasm

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

While those event was certain to cause some resentment of USSR/Russia, that hatred needs to persist long after Russia gave all of those countries liberation peacefully, and that all lies and diminishment becomes morally justified.

Neo-Tankyism is all reality opposing maximization of Russophobia and Sinophobia for CIA/US empire subjugation of those who could benefit from non-US subjugation. It is a projection in protecting their programming no matter how evil the US is, or actively directly attacking them, because their programming has no factual defense.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago

Authoritarianism sucks, no matter what country is doing it.

[-] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 6 points 3 months ago

pejorative term for people who supported Kruschev's use of tanks

Funnily enough, didn't it come out two weeks ago from JFK papers that the leader of the Hungarian Freedom Fighters of the Hungarian Revolution was on CIA bankroll? Wow, tankies have been vindicated etymologically? Who woulda thunk

[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

So does that mean the Hungarian revolution was engineered by the CIA? Like by the US government? I think that was suspected for a long time, but also that justifying the tankie view ignores a lot of nuance imo. Does "america bad" really justify the use of tanks? Was the Hungarian revolution really fascist even if some of the leadership was? Or was it simply an anti-authoritarian struggle for freedom and self-determination?

Idk, I'm lacking in a lot of historical knowledge.

[-] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The Hungarian Revolution didn't need to be fascist to justify the use of tanks, but yes, the fact that Hungary suffered a US-supported coup is worthy of tanks. The horrors lived in Eastern Europe as a consequence of the dismantling of socialism in the name of "freedom" are unspeakable. Millions of lives lost to unemployment, alcoholism, lack of healthcare, suicide and a myriad more of reasons. Those don't matter I guess, since they're victims of capitalism.

"America bad" by itself almost justifies the use of tanks. Joining the Western World in imperialism, unequal exchange and ultimately genocide, is a crime against humanity, and history books of the future will reflect this. History won't be kind to those who exploited the billions of people of the global south for the selfish gain of a few capitalist overlord.

[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

K I gotta bow out of this one, we're getting into territory and history on which I am not educated or confident enough in my knowledge to discuss, also it's a very controversial topic I don't want to discuss on a public forum with people who don't know me.

Sorry, I acknowledge that I asked a bunch of questions you are just answering lol. My fault!

Cheers, hope you have a lovely evening!

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Specifically, those who also ignore the ccp, putin, hamas, and hezbolla's evil and lies.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

https://lemmy.world/post/27513594

https://lemmy.world/post/27378634

https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This makes sense.

I do think "tankie" is the wrong word, as "bootlicker" sounds more apt since Russia hasn't been communist since '91.

As in, these devs are definitely authoritarian, but communist? Absolutely not.

[-] AwkwardBroccolli@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

I dont think they are tankies. I am an anarchist and I believe communism is as evil as capitalism. I am lemmy.ml so I dont think they are tankies.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I don't think you know what communism is supposed to be if you think it is as evil as capitalism... (note I said supposed to be, not what ever language an authoritarian decides to couch their takeover in)

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm an anarchist, these people are the kind of genocide appreciators who call all dissenting leftists tankies

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Nope, clear definition:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof.