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[-] Maxxie 88 points 2 weeks ago

I only see mockery of accelerationists, which I broadly support. Its 10 times easier to reform an existing government that to destroy and build a good one from scratch.

[-] lyricanna@ttrpg.network 23 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair, the only reason I sound like an accelerationist, is because the building is clearly on fire right now and I'm presuming its structural at this point. So yeah, while I wish it didn't get to this point, it feels likely that we will have to rebuild things from the ground up.

[-] match@pawb.social 33 points 2 weeks ago

life hack: begin building new social structures before the current ones collapse

[-] silverlose@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Accelerationists HATE him for this one weird trick, click to read more

[-] Draces@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

You sound like an accelerationist because you think things are unsalvageable? Go figure.

[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

Not when the existing government is built to concentrate and protect current property relations. Sure have parallel structures built to replace what exists but don't reform, revolt.

[-] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago

Difficulty of reform aside, the pain and suffering that will come from societal collapse will be immense. The chance of successfully building a better system out of the crumbled remains is low. I don't think it's a great aspiration.

[-] desktop_user 0 points 2 weeks ago

some will die, that is a sacrifice.

[-] ChaoticCookie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Good people dying is bad, always! Even if it’s worth it in the end, we should try to find a way to save lives instead!

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Good people are dying now though. When is the cost of drastic change worth the cost of the status quo?

[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

the way to save lives is to change the society that harms billions not prop it up because you lack the imagination to think of something better.

[-] ChaoticCookie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I agree that society is currently immensely flawed and should be changed, I just want minimal deaths on the way. If we can save lives, we should! Some deaths are necessary for change though.

[-] segabased@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago
[-] LaserRunRaccoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for your wisdom, Lord Farquaad.

[-] segabased@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

This isn't happening

Accelerationism is happening towards fascism. This would be a different story if socialism was on the rise with parallel structures in place to rescue us during the collapse

Literally this is not happening nor will happen. Not even close, it blows my mind other leftists think fascism provides opportunity. "Things are going to be great after this is all said and done!" As we're rounded up and deported to El Salvador

[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

The way to fight fascism is by attacking the system that holds it up not recreating its parent.

[-] match@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

but where are the parallel structures

[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

immediately attacked by the ruling elite when it starts to form

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

While I agree in theory, it assumes the existing system has rational or somewhat rational actors.

If your system is full of counter productive individuals, it might be easier to start fresh.

This works better with groups and companies, entire countries, not so much.

this post was submitted on 07 Apr 2025
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