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[-] raptir@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago

Yeah I can understand speaking English and avoiding subtitles, but there are basically three options for accent:

  • American, with some allowance for "urban" vs "country"
  • Not American - English
  • Evil - Russian or German, depending
[-] smee@poeng.link 3 points 4 days ago

Where does Australian English fit in?

[-] nednobbins@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

The English accent is often used for evil empires too, eg Star Wars.

[-] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

Also lots of evil mastermind types in spy movies and whatnot. They also like to eat while being evil, which I have a whole theory about.

[-] nednobbins@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

There are a lot of interesting discussions around the use of food in movies. Even ones that aren't directly about food.

Regular food intake is critical for our survival so it makes sense that it takes a large social role.

As a general rule, making and sharing food is considered "good".

  • "Everybody eats when they come to my house." - Cab Calloway
  • "You can get anything you want, at Alice's restaurant." - Arlo Guthrie

Taking and consuming food is "bad".

  • "Get in my belly!" - Fat Bastard
  • "Mind if I have some of your tasty beverage to wash this down with?" - Jules

The exception is when food is offered. In that case, graciously accepting the food is also good.

  • ET and Sloth (from Goonies) accept the candy.
[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 4 days ago

How does Valentine serving Sir Galahad McDonalds on a silver platter in Kingman Secret Service fit into that?

[-] nednobbins@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

I'll take a stab at it but I don't remember that movie well so I had to re-watch the clip.

I'll start by reiterating that the above stuff is generalizations. Some authors ignore them and some intentionally break them. I thin Kingsmen falls into the latter category.

The movie is full of class shibboleths and makes a point of dissociating etiquette from kindness or morality.

To start with, it's rude of Valentine to offer McCdonalds. There's an expectation of generosity towards guests and McDonalds certainly doesn't meet that expectation in that sort of setting.

Sir Galahad's response is that of a perfect guest. He doesn't argue with his host or call him out. Instead he accepts what is offered and humbly supports Valentines implication that it's the height of epicurean delight.

The larger context is to set up a contrast between Valentine and Eggsy. While booth violate high-class etiquette rules, Valentine does it out of aggression and selfishness and Eggsy does it to save the world.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Hey I appreciate the well thought out comment in response to my train-of-thought-probably-shouldn't-have-posted-it 1-liner!

[-] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

Evil - Russian or German, depending

Or just vaguely Eastern European. Basically, do your hammiest Bela Lugosi impression, and you'll have a bright future as Human Trafficker #1 in all the best shaky-cam action schlock Hollywood has to offer.

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