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Okay, so I hit rotten tomatoes, checked movies that were both critics rotten AND audience rotten, and started perusing titles for stuff I thought rocked.
abraham lincoln: vampire hunter
waterworld
hellboy (how is this in here? I thought this was universally loved)
mars attacks! (56 and 53, I also feel like this shouldn't be on the list. It's too good, and not in a bad way)
x-men origins: wolverine (again, is this not considered awesome? I thought it was great)
daredevil/elektra (I enjoyed both movies)
and now for stuff I've watched at least five times:
the ninth gate
planet of the apes (2001)
avp
prince of persia
green lantern
van helsing
I'm dead serious, I was looking forward to MORE green lantern movies along the lines of that first one. I bought it on amazon having heard nothing about it (I was in a societal black hole for a few years there), watched it, loved it, and was like "sweet, when's the sequel coming out? I wanna see sinestro do his thing...wow, this did not do well. Fuck."
I wasn't super happy with ALL of the writing, but that's comic stuff in general and I thought the whole thing was still quite enjoyable. Like, multiple rewatches enjoyable. Seeing Hal Jordan on screen and having Ryan Reynolds do it was great.
The 2004 hellboy with Ron Perlman has 81%
Its the 2019 car crash which is rotten.
Ah, that explains a thing or two. I didn't know there was a 2019 version.
Thank you!
The Ron Perlman movies are beloved Itchy & Scratchy episodes.
The 2019 episode is Poochie.
+1 for having the courage to share that list. Some of those movies are just awful.
LOL
That's fair (and generally the prevailing opinion from what I can tell)
I think I just missed the boarding call for this decade's nitpicky bus because I can't even stomach reading most reviews anymore. They're all too negative for my taste.
Maybe my internal critic just gave up and retired with the advent of midichlorians as a plot device way back in my late teens. That's the last time I recall being truly disappointed in a movie that I sat all the way through. In retrospect I can't even blame the star wars extended universe novels at the time for setting the bar too high.
Waterworld is such a great movie with a lot of misguided hate. Many dont like it because of its reputation of being an expensive flop but havnt actually bothered to watch it. I personally love it, I also enjoyed The Postman too which was another unloved Kevin Costner post-apocalypse movie
Waterworld is great. Even when it came out, I loved it. It's a fun adventure movie with a personality all of its own.
The only thing I didn't like about The Postman was the ending, and I mean the very ending scene. Other than that, another fun movie.
Ford Lincoln Mercury. Loved that guy.
Are you sure you’re not mixing up wolverine with “the wolverine“ (2013, 71%)? Because that one is great. As is Logan.
I'm not sure, but the one I'm thinking of starts in the 1800's, which is part of why I enjoyed it.
I thought it was a neat take on what I considered an otherwise one-dimensional character. (Don't hate me, my first exposure to Wolverine was the 90's animated series, where he WAS pretty darn one-dimensional)
That’s the one where Wade Wilson is turned into a mute mutant with laser eyes and him and Wolverine fight on top of a nuclear reactor’s steam tower at the end.
That movie deserves all its flak. The best part was the opening montage showing Wolverine through all of history, but that was a single sequence in an otherwise terrible movie.
I remember seeing Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter and the first avengers on the same week and much preferring the first one
Surprised by the ninth gate. I thought it was cool
Some of the stuff on your list is pretty bad, but a lot of it is intentionally appealing to a niche audience, which with how Rotten Tomato scoring works, will give it a bad score.
Mars Attacks is an example of a love it or hate it movie. If you are on the right wavelength with the humor and style, it’s amazing and hilarious. If you aren’t, then nothing about it appeals to you.
Rotten Tomatoes scoring favors movies that the majority of people find “Pretty ok, I guess” rather than movies which create strong reactions.
Listing Daredevil is pretty daring though. The Netflix show, and the Punisher show which is something of a spin-off blow it out of the water.
Loved Daredevil. The main appeal of Elektra was Jennifer Garner's amazing physical shape.
Rotten tomatoes has been rotten for a long time now. The critics seem especially bad at even figuring out what a movie is supposed to be. They'll rate a Micheal Bay explosion fest like a romance and vice versa.
I was surprised green lantern was so poorly received. I really enjoyed it at the movies